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It's always something with me isn't it?! LOL Alright let me attempt to explain what is happening with my system and hopefully someone will be able to troubleshoot and tell me what is wrong so I can get it fixed.

To give a little history about what's going on... for a few weeks hit and miss the sound would drop out and become muffled. Not to mention it sounded horrible and people let me know it did too. I was told it was the mixer board so I replaced that with a brand spankin' new mixer... that wasn't the problem. As it ended up my amp up and died so that was replaced (with the crate1400 mentioned in my post). Last week the sound seemed to drop out a couple of times but I really thought it might just have been my imagination running away with me.

Wrong answer! Last night it was horrible and was probably muffled more than it was clear. Gosh I could smack myself because I think my lack of knowledge is what caused the amp to kill over and... what I am wondering about the sound now is that the speakers have been damaged. At least the highs and mids. Thus being why the sound is muffled. The signal stays the same.

I know that in my previous question that the Pyle speakers seemed to be low end... which I kinda figured because of the price but they fit my budget at the time. Of course I've not ruled out it being the EQ since the sound is what is going bad. What do you all think it might be? Also should it end up being the speakers I would probably be putting Peaveys in their place. Would that be a good choice of speakers?

Thank you all and by the way, Happy New Year!!

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Sounds like you possibly popped the tweeters in the speakers.

If you are going to replace, look into the Yamaha S115V Club Series. They are well worth the cost.

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Man oh man, the things I get myself into without even trying. Hey, I'm finally learning things bit by bit by coming around here.

It's weird the sound only drops every once in awhile. It depends on the signal being sent or the pitch of the music then. Is that right?

Thank you again Lonman for helping an ol' country girl out with her technical difficulties.

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If you have blown the tweeters, the sound wouldn't come and go. It would just be gone.
Do you have active or passive cross-over's? If so, get them tested. Bad capacitors do strange things in electronics. Could be that your cross-overs are located inside the speaker cabinet if you don't have actual rack mounts.


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AllStar wrote:
If you have blown the tweeters, the sound wouldn't come and go. It would just be gone.


Most likely, but not necessarily. I once had a tweeter with an intermittant short, worked fine for about an hour heat up then would quit, cool back down & pop back on. Finally replaced & never had a problem with it (or experienced that problem) since.

Bad cap or resistor in the crossover would be another good place to start.
When it cuts out, does it do it on both speakers at the same time?

A_Lisa, you never mentioned the model of the Pyle speaker in question, just going by what you said with the wattage I am guessing it is the PAH-1580.

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I think the problem has finally been solved. You all are great!

Yes there is a built in crossover in my speakers (whatever that is *g*). I'll have to look that up and read about it. With all the problems I've been having and all the learning along the way, one day I just may know what I am doing. LOL

Lonman, they are Pyle 1589 (ebay item # 3771490468). Yes as the commercial says, "I got it on Ebay!" *sigh* Now to replace them, but hopefully I can salvage at least the woofers.

While I've got you here... what is your opinion on storing equipment? Would it be harmful to have it stored in a room where it could get to freezing temp?

Thanks to you both AllStar and Lonman for the advice and information. As the 'Governator' of California would say, "I'll Be Back!"

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We store all sorts of things (mostly solid state equipment - like your amp, etc) at extremely cold temperatures (-40*F to -60*F - sometimes colder) over the winter. It's hard on the equipment, but as long as you let it warm up to room temperature (at least 40-50*F, preferably 60*-70*F) you shouldn't have any problems. Again, freezing temps are VERY hard on the equipment - especially the adhesives for the surrounds on the speakers and the surrounds themselves - it should be avoided if possible.


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A_Lisa65 wrote:
While I've got you here... what is your opinion on storing equipment? Would it be harmful to have it stored in a room where it could get to freezing temp?


The equipment hardware such as players, mixers, processors are a little more forgiving than speakers, but as stated as long as you let them warm up before firing them off, you shouldn't have a problem. I would personally put the speakers in a warmer environment for storage.

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Once again, Thank You Lonman and Karaokemeister for the advice.

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