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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:09 am 
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Dear fellow KJ's...

First of all Happy Holidays! Curious... [as always! :D ] How many of you use a Digital Key controller. Since I've left all my VocoPro gear behind, I don't have that feature anymore. I now have the Numark CDN25+G player, plus a Mackie 1202 mixer, along with an Alesis compressor. At times I found the key changers useful, but is it really worth spending money in one? Your opinions are appreciated. BTW: If yes! Which models!

Have a Happy, Happy... whatever you celebrate! :spin:

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If it was my choice, I would add a JVC single CDG player to my setup. That way you could use that player whenever key changes are required. The lack of a key changer is the only thing that is keeping me from replacing my JVC triple with the Numark.


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I would agree with stevieb, I have two players with one that allows key change the RSQ 333 and one that doesn't. When a singer gets up and would like a key change I make sure I use the RSQ. Right now I also have a vocopro mixer (NOT for long) and I do not like the key changer on it. Sound poopy to me. :lol:

I only have a few that ask for key changes. And I don't promote it.


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If you don't ever change keys, then it's not important at all, but I guarantee as soon as someone asks for a key change (I personally have NEVER had a show without a key change request from someone) & you say - "Sorry, my equipment doesn't allow that", they are going to either say ok or finish out the night & go elsewhere next time.

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if you guys are dedicated to your numark players, there is a digital key changer and echo machine at acekaraoke.com


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I've had shows where I wasn't asked but it's mostly by those people who aren't very dedicated to singing or know much about keys, tempo, etc.

On the other hand I've had shows where I've been asked to changes keys by 5-10 people over the course of the night.

All in all, I agree with Lonman, if you can't do it and someone asks for it they'll go elsewhere. Even if you only use it once a month it's worth the costs to get one ($299 give or take) and keep the people in the bar enjoying the show.


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Ditto what was said, I would suggest getting a single tray CDG player

Although I swear by my JVC...... for back up purposes there are "less expesnive" models out there. Shop around !


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We do our shows and home fun with 100% computer... We have invested loads on disc's, but storing and running this stuff on computer is so much easier. If someone does happen to have a CDG with them that I don't have... Rarely happens.. Actually only one time.. ;-) we simply play the CDG with the computer.

The DSP Key changer software for computers are garbage. I've tried so many of them and don't recomend anyone wasting their time.

A buddy just bought a mixer with digital key change capabilities and it works pretty good overall...

We just got an AKM706 from Audio2000... It works really good on some songs, and other's sound like garbage... But... it still works better than trying to use software to achive the same effect. DSP chip works better than computer software doing the same thing.. Don't know why, but it just does...

If your slinging disc's, then get a key change player. If your computer, then get something similar to what we just picked up.

But know this.. A key change up or down will never sound as good as the original recorded key. If someone ask for a key change we make sure that they know what they are talking about and are aware that the quality of the song might be less than the original.

Now with that said, I agree... you always get some joker that wants to key a rock song way down because they like it, or a lady that want's to take a song up 4 notches for the same.. But... You can count on someone at least wanting a key up or down some for each gig..

Take Care and Sing on... ;-)
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We do our shows and home fun with 100% computer... We have invested loads on disc's, but storing and running this stuff on computer is so much easier. If someone does happen to have a CDG with them that I don't have... Rarely happens.. Actually only one time.. ;-) we simply play the CDG with the computer.

The DSP Key changer software for computers are garbage. I've tried so many of them and don't recomend anyone wasting their time.

A buddy just bought a mixer with digital key change capabilities and it works pretty good overall...

We just got an AKM706 from Audio2000... It works really good on some songs, and other's sound like garbage... But... it still works better than trying to use software to achive the same effect. DSP chip works better than computer software doing the same thing.. Don't know why, but it just does...

If your slinging disc's, then get a key change player. If your computer, then get something similar to what we just picked up.

But know this.. A key change up or down will never sound as good as the original recorded key. If someone ask for a key change we make sure that they know what they are talking about and are aware that the quality of the song might be less than the original.

Now with that said, I agree... you always get some joker that wants to key a rock song way down because they like it, or a lady that want's to take a song up 4 notches for the same.. But... You can count on someone at least wanting a key up or down some for each gig..

Take Care and Sing on... ;-)
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