Compression used correctly can bring out certain dynamics of vocals that will sound better (provided the vocals are decent to begin with
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| Author: | wrybread [ Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
I'm looking for some audio effects on my mics, mostly a decent reverb but a little compression would be nice too. I know there's a lot of units out there now that do this, but seeing if anyone has any recommendation? Ideally looking for inexpensive (under $150), since mine is far from a professional rig. My amp (Fender Passport) has an effects send, or, preferrably, can put it inline with my mics (GTDAudio G-380), which send out a single 1/4" mono signal, so should be easy enough to route through a processor. |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
You probably are not going to find an effects processor and compressor in one unit. Here you go - nice basic effects processor http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexicon-MPX100- ... SwoudW281T nice compressor http://www.ebay.com/itm/DBX-166XL-Compr ... SwxvxW8Xl~ These are Buy It Now options so need to be quick. About $150 plus whatever shipping costs for both! |
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| Author: | wrybread [ Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
Thanks those look great. Have you used them before? Fairly decent sound? Some reverbs sound pretty rough. And am I barking up the right tree, thinking reverb + compression make the vocals sound a lot better? |
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| Author: | mrmarog [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
Compression won't make the voice sound any better, but it will make a screamer easier to handle. |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
Compression used correctly can bring out certain dynamics of vocals that will sound better (provided the vocals are decent to begin with ).
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| Author: | wrybread [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
Ha well put on both of the above. Thoughts on reverb? And/or other vocal processing? |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
wrybread wrote: Ha well put on both of the above. Every recorded piece of music in history has SOME kind of reverb or delay - even if you don't think you hear it - it's there. Singing without at least a basic reverb is harsh.
Thoughts on reverb? And/or other vocal processing? |
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| Author: | wrybread [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
> Singing without at least a basic reverb is harsh. Agreed. My amp (Fender Passport) has echo but not reverb. It helps a lot but is a little on the cheesy side when you add enough to get rid of the harshness. Thoughts on reverb versus echo? |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
They both have their uses. Reverb is probably more common especially in karaoke because a lot of kjs (not all) don't really like to fiddle with other effects. |
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| Author: | wrybread [ Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
Thanks, compressor ordered! I think that's going to be really helpful with my microphones (GTDAudio), since you really do have to get super close to them. Its a very very fine line between too close (boomy) and too far (faint). |
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| Author: | karaokeniagarafalls [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
wrybread wrote: Thanks those look great. Have you used them before? Fairly decent sound? Some reverbs sound pretty rough. And am I barking up the right tree, thinking reverb + compression make the vocals sound a lot better? As mentioned the DBX166  Try to avoid the 266 model, for some reason, they just not the same as the 166 models although the noise gate is not necessary for karaoke, but if you got a few extra dollars check out the Quad DBX 1046 comp |
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| Author: | wrybread [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
Awesome. I bought both the compressor and fx rig. Super psyched to try them. |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
wrybread wrote: Awesome. I bought both the compressor and fx rig. Super psyched to try them. Now remember these aren't plug in, set & forget. Learn what they do, how they should be set (every rig can differ), what each different effect does, etc.
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| Author: | wrybread [ Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
Good tip, and thanks. |
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| Author: | Robin Dean [ Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
http://www.tc-helicon.com/en/products/mic-mechanic/ |
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| Author: | wrybread [ Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
> http://www.tc-helicon.com/en/products/mic-mechanic/ Interesting. Have you used it? Do you recommend it? Would you need compression with it as well, or is it all you think you'd need? |
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| Author: | Robin Dean [ Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
wrybread wrote: > http://www.tc-helicon.com/en/products/mic-mechanic/ Interesting. Have you used it? Do you recommend it? Would you need compression with it as well, or is it all you think you'd need? TC-Helicon makes a whole range of vocal processing devices. The box I posted fits at your price point, but is limited in scope. You get into the $300-$400 range and there are many more options. |
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| Author: | wrybread [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Advice on inexpensive mic audio processing? |
I got all 3 gizmos this weekend and tried them out. This really isn't a review since I have no clue what I'm doing yet, but my no-idea-what-I'm-doing-yet first impressions are that the Mic Mechanic did a good job without having to do any tweaks. I was able to get at least as good a sound from the compressor + fx rack, but it took a lot more study to get there. I'm really glad to have both since the compressor is an interesting thing to learn, and its probably necessary to understand compression in order to get good results from gizmos like the Mic Mechanic. Anyway, thanks hugely for the recommendations, was all exactly what I was looking for. And now off to watch more YouTube videos on using the DBX166... |
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