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Hi,

I just started ripping all my audio cd's. I found this very nice software called Exact Audio Copy. It reads each sector multiple times to ensure a bit perfect rip. Used in combination with Lame MP3 and FLAC (encoders) and Marion (to interfaces EAC to the two encoders, I have a very nice setup for ripping music cd's.

I insert a cd in my plextor drive, EAC looks up the artist, cd title, song titles etc. on Freecddb, ripps the cd without any errors, verifies the quality of the rip using the accurip database, creates the appropriate directory structure and then calls Marion which in turn starts the two encoders. The encoded files are placed in parallel directory structures (one for portable use and one for archival). After the encoding the wavefile is deleted and EAC starts on the next song.

Unfortunately, EAC and the databases do not support karaoke cd's (to my knowledge). So, after this very long description, my question is: is there any software that would allow me to rip karaoke cd's in the same manner?
I would like to be able to get perfect rips of the music as well as the graphics. I would like to FLAC encode the music for archival and Lame MP3 encode for use. Furthermore I would like to be able to look up the cd info (all my CD+G's are Sound Choice). Otherwise it will take forever to rip all the cd's if I have to input all the song and disc info.

So again, can any software (or collection of software) do this?

Thanks,

Morten

Several companies make the software to create legal backup copies of your CDs.

MTU has several solutions.

Golden Hawk has others.

Search this site for this topic. It has been done again and again.

jdmeister, with alldue respect, I think the question is about EAC and the databases. My answer, I wish ther was such a feature for karaoke, but no, not to my knowledge!

Actually, the encoding to FLAC and MP3 should be supported since the music portion of the CD's are standard Red Book Audio. They won't look up on freedb through EAC because they haven't been added to the database. There are a few that have been added, but this is the exception and not the rule.

The problem is that once you get the audio, you still need the subcodes for the video. It's easy enough to do rip both the audio and video with MP3+G Toolz and GoldenHawk's software, but you'll want to replace the resulting mp3 files with your current process if the quality is that big an issue to you.

It's really a pain but if you're wanting to go through the trouble I won't stop you....

Guys,

thanks for your input!!

JDmeister, as Allstar mentioned, I do know about the programs you mentioned. However, even after searching this website I have no idea of whether any of them (including Hoster) supports secure (error-free) ripping.

Karaoke-meister, you are right, I can always rip the audio with eac afterwards. What I am especially interested in is whether any of the softwares support secure ripping of the vocal info. Since, the vocal info is stored without any error correction, as far as I know, it would be really nice to use secure ripping.

BTW. My understanding is that the newest version of Audiograbber supports secure ripping of CD+G's and it is freeware but it does not have access to any databases.

I thought the MTU ripper has a built in database???

When ripping should I store the files in a special directory structure to make it compatible with hosting software such as hoster or Sax & Dottie?

Thanks,

Morten

if audio grabber can rip them securely, as you want, you can rip them as BIN files to your hard drive and then use a program such as MP3+G toolz to rename them with all the digital data (tag, artist, title etc)... MP3+G Tools uses the KJ Pro database as reference for it's tag information... I don't believe it automatically recognizes the disk information, you simply direct the program to the disk maker and disk number and it fills in the rest... something to check out at least...-tig

Ok, I know exactly what you need!

You need a software that will extract both the music & the graphic from a cdg disk, right? I use CDG Ripper and once I have both files (wave+g) I than use wavelab to extract the audio only into wave and just overwrite the original wave file!! I know exactly what you mean, not many software are capable of extracting all the proper information from the disk, so far, Wavelab does a perfect job!

Always make sure both files (audio+graphic)have the same name stored in the same folder!

Oh, btw, not many software are capable of playing wave+g, I would recommend Karawin Pro, it also uses the best audio engine in the industry call, Bass Audio!! It will soon be able to play the 24 bit format, imagine playing your karaoke songs in that format, who needs a studio???

Have fun!

Your suggestion is good but the best way to keep the sound quality or I should say, get the exact data is to extract using the secure mode in a wave file only. For best results, a hard drive in FAT32 will give you a better sound also. I can't figure out why those karaoke company only extract in bin, cdg, wma... They should offer the option of extracting into wave+g, than up to you to decide if you go mp3+g using a good Lame encoder, wma+g, bin if you wish to burn... Some of them only offers one option & not cheap!!

True, their database carries nearly 197.000 songs, the problem is that a lot of the CDG suppliers say track #1 = blah blah, it does not always work that way. Some of the suppliers are well known for their track mistakes. The database is pretty darn good though!

I think when it comes to the database, Hoster is the best! Where I have a problem, is the fact that it doesn't split the audio & graphic, it also has the wma format only, a key changer that... and all that for big $$$$

I believe they will be having major improvement on this software soon, so let's see if they do come up with the good tools!

ALSO

wave+g= huge file that takes up lots of hard drive space
.kma or Mpg+3= small file........ 10% of the wave size

MTU Hoster has the best answer with a database, and small lossless file format.

If you have a badly scratched cdg You will not get a "secure" copy no matter what the software. I have seen Hoster Bring out songs from scratched cdg's that a player wouldnt read.

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Wave+g would take the same amount of space than a bin file or cdg if extracted with Microstudio, the difference is that you can do some correction on the audio file using and editing software, of couse you need to decide which way to go after to compress the whole thing!

I agree with you, both Microstudio & Hoster are excellent at reading damaged disk, I just wish they had more option available to offer once extracted in the hard drive.