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Author:  Alan B [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:54 pm ]
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I recently came across this video and was blown away? I've never seen anything like it before. Amazing way to run a karaoke show. After seeing it I realized just how antiquated our system of displaying graphics to music on screen really is. It's old, been done for years, the time has come for a new face lift. In this new age of High Definition, this is the direction the manufacturers should take.

I've posted the link for your comments. Now I don't want to hear anything about legalities or turn it into such a discussion. It's about a new way to use the latest technology for new karaoke releases. Obviously it could be done.
Author:  leopard lizard [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:04 pm ]
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You mean like laser discs?
Author:  Kirks Karaoke [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:16 pm ]
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I find them all too distracting. Just give me the words. It may be fine for the audience to watch, but on stage no not for me.
Author:  Alan B [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:18 pm ]
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Ct Kirk Karaoke wrote:
I find them all too distracting. Just give me the words. It may be fine for the audience to watch, but on stage no not for me.

And that's cool. That's exactly what I asked for, peoples opinions on this. Thanks.
Author:  Cueball [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:01 pm ]
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Now, that "Frozen" video was nice. It was sort of like the "Original Footage" line that one of the Karaoke Manufactures put out (and you had to remember to hit the Left or Right Balance off on your mixer or player so that the Main Vocal was eliminated. The question I have is, are all the HD Videos supposed to be like that, or are they going to give you cheezie (sp?) HD videos that have absolutely nothing to do with the songs (like Pioneer did)?

Ct Kirk Karaoke wrote:
I find them all too distracting. Just give me the words. It may be fine for the audience to watch, but on stage no not for me.
Personally, I liked those cheezie LDs that Pioneer had put out. I never found them distracting. Actually, they made the night more fun (because we used to make fun of some of the videos... Like "Blue Bayou," where the guy has an erection at the end of the Video).
Author:  Smoothedge69 [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:02 pm ]
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Yeah, it's pretty, but I could see it as a distraction, too.
Author:  Lonman [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:14 pm ]
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Many of the manus again have the capability to do these with the video options out - they are already re-releasing much of their catalogs in a 'hi def' video format - for just the graphics, they could easily add a video like this for those who want them,
I still use the old Pioneer laserdiscs and some people HATE the videos, some that have never seen them think they are pretty cool - a little out of date however.
Author:  Earl [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:22 pm ]
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Thanks, but no thanks. Not for me. I'm a firm believer in the K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid) philosophy. Heck, even though I own Just Karaoke 2 (amongst other programs), I still use Winamp for my shows. That's how rock-bottom simple I like it.
Author:  DMX Karaoke [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:28 pm ]
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It could be done easily. The HD versions of karaoke that are being done now by several manufacturers could incorporate video clips like this one does. But what manufacturer in the Western world (this was done by a Korean I think) would take such a gamble? I know you said you didn't want to turn this into a legal question but you have to be realistic.

The only way I can see this type of video ever coming to the market is if the artists want to put it out themselves. If anyone else does it, they leave themselves open to double the legal risk - and 50% of the singers hate video backgrounds! :| :|
Author:  Lonman [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:33 am ]
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DMX Karaoke wrote:
It could be done easily. The HD versions of karaoke that are being done now by several manufacturers could incorporate video clips like this one does.
Which is what I said, but they;d honestly have to spend twice to put out a video version for those who'd want to gamble and a regular plain graphics version for most that would actually buy. I know personally I wouldn't buy a version with a video if there was a plain graphics version available just from the response on the laserdisc videos I offer.
Any legalities aside.
Author:  leopard lizard [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:50 am ]
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The one thing that makes the example a bit different is that it's from a Disney movie. Adults might not be into it but as the movie is aimed at younger people then they might appreciate getting to sing along with their favorite characters. Plus it helps to advertise and strengthen the bond to the movie. As Disney puts out their own karaoke they probably have a bit less legal hassle to do this sort of thing.

I'm not as sure about adults at a karaoke show, though. I have a laser where people can sing BeeGees songs to the original music while the BeeGees are shown singing the song in concert. I hear there is one like that for the Eagles, too. So far no one is as impressed as I thought they might be.
Author:  jclaydon [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:54 am ]
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Alan B wrote:
I recently came across this video and was blown away? I've never seen anything like it before. Amazing way to run a karaoke show. After seeing it I realized just how antiquated our system of displaying graphics to music on screen really is. It's old, been done for years, the time has come for a new face lift. In this new age of High Definition, this is the direction the manufacturers should take.

I've posted the link for your comments. Now I don't want to hear anything about legalities or turn it into such a discussion. It's about a new way to use the latest technology for new karaoke releases. Obviously it could be done.



I am not all that impressed, and I certainly wouldn't call it revolutionary. As someone else mentioned, this is pretty much like laserdiscs by pioneer. karaoke videos have been around for a long time, they just haven't been adapted by very many people.

I'd say they would have to come up with something truly unique before I'd be willing to spend money on a program that plays video, being the cheap arse person I am :)

-James
Author:  KaraokeIan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:00 am ]
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The focus is supposed to be on the singer, not the lyrics display. What's the sense of being a karaoke singer if no one is going to pay attention to you?
Author:  MrBoo [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:05 am ]
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Lot's of karaoke singers, including me many times, are not all that interesting to look at. This is especially true during instrumental breaks. I am not saying these videos are the way to go, but having something other than the singer to keep the audience visually interested isn't a bad idea. There are some horrible singers for bands where the bands still keep the audience interested visually.
Author:  Kirks Karaoke [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:02 am ]
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MrBoo wrote:
Lot's of karaoke singers, including me many times, are not all that interesting to look at. This is especially true during instrumental breaks. I am not saying these videos are the way to go, but having something other than the singer to keep the audience visually interested isn't a bad idea. There are some horrible singers for bands where the bands still keep the audience interested visually.

It's hard to do both be a good entertainer and be a good singer. That's why we pay big bucks to go see your fav.s in concert.
Author:  Kuelman1 [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:36 am ]
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If both formats were available I would stick with a graphics only version.
I do remember going to a show and the KJ had a Playboy karaoke version of a song I requested. Talk about being distracted by the background video. What a surprise when naked models appeared in the background video... :reddevil:
Author:  Product 19 [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:18 pm ]
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alan,

where can i see/can you post like 2 more examples?

i'd like to see what other songs look like with this format
Author:  Alan B [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:41 pm ]
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So, it seems that the consensus is that the video is too distracting. Personally, I like it and think it adds a whole new dimension to the karaoke presentation. I would definitely support this if manufacturers released material in this manor. I think it's time for a change, step outside of the box. I think that it doesn't take away, it just adds to the presentation. But that's my opinion. I like gimmicks.

I also buy all my movies in 3D(whenever they're released in 3D). I know a lot of people don't like 3D either but IMO, it just adds to the presentation and realism.

But, the real test will be if the customers like it. Doesn't matter what we think, it's about the singers. I certainly wouldn't use it if the majority of singers hated it. But I think it's awesome.
Author:  MrBoo [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:49 pm ]
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I think it would be better if one screen could show plain while the one the audience sees had the graphics.
Author:  mrmarog [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:12 pm ]
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I spent a ton of nights converting my Pioneer Laser Discs to WMV files and only recently started using them. I also have the entire set of Pioneer CDG discs which contains about 98% of all the songs on laser disc. Since I have started using them I haven't had one positive comment. I've had a few "oh, they are so funny" type comments and several "I find them too distracting as a singer", and I've a few tell me that it was more difficult to follow the words on the screen. I will continue to use them few awhile in hopes that it will grow on me and my audience.
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