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Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:21 am ] |
Post subject: | How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
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Author: | DannyG2006 [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
Depends on what you definition of hard drive player is. It can be defined as a:eonic which looks like a hard drive, b:CAVS jukebox or c: computer based. I fall under c. All must go through the audits to use SC material on them. |
Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
DannyG2006 wrote: Depends on what you definition of hard drive player is. It can be defined as a:eonic which looks like a hard drive, b:CAVS jukebox or c: computer based. I fall under c. All must go through the audits to use SC material on them. ![]() |
Author: | mightywiz [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
I started karaoke in 1996 maybe 1995. I'm a computer tech and and started with a Mackie 1400I amp and a jvc 5 disc carousel and 2 mic's & 200 disc's. I found out that it was a pain in (@$%!) to lug around disc's and find a place for them to sit in limited space. so that first year I found tricerasoft's wincdgpro and made the conversion to computer based way back in 1996 + or - a couple years. getting old can't really remember. everybody loved it, it was faster and just different. |
Author: | timberlea [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
Any device with a HD in it is a HD player whether one calls it a desk top, laptop, CAVs or anything else. |
Author: | jclaydon [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
well i had a madboy karaoke player that would allow you to plug in a usb hard drive, as long as it was formatted in FAT32, which kinda defeats the purpose because of the limited storeage that format can handle. If i was hosting right now, even tho I mainly use a computer, I would still buy a RSQ K2 system, it can support 2 1 T drives. -James |
Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
jclaydon wrote: well i had a madboy karaoke player that would allow you to plug in a usb hard drive, as long as it was formatted in FAT32, which kinda defeats the purpose because of the limited storeage that format can handle. If i was hosting right now, even tho I mainly use a computer, I would still buy a RSQ K2 system, it can support 2 1 T drives. -James ![]() |
Author: | chrisavis [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
My rack mount PC has 4tb or total storage, however, I have the operating system on drive 0 mirrored to drive 1 and all the karaoke music on drive 2 mirrored to drive 3. It is also a dual power supply system so I have no single point of failure except the Motherboard in the PC. I never use external drives for an active show because they 1) grow feet and walk away, 2) too easy to drop and destroy. I am slowly replacing all laptop drives with solid state drives to further reduce the chance of a physical hard drive crash. -Chris |
Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
timberlea wrote: Any device with a HD in it is a HD player whether one calls it a desk top, laptop, CAVs or anything else. ![]() |
Author: | chrisavis [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
The Lone Ranger wrote: timberlea wrote: Any device with a HD in it is a HD player whether one calls it a desk top, laptop, CAVs or anything else. ![]() Computer systems are not more complex. No remote to learn. Simpler drag and drop or even touch screen operation. Easier to search for songs by artist or title. They only become more complex if you decide to use more advanced features. This allows them to be used out of the box very easily and to tech yourself the more advanced features over time. The JB-199 series CAVS units are Windows XP PC's with CAVS produced software running the integrated hardware. No different than a Windows XP PC running CompuHost and controlling the integrated hardware. The difference is that PC based systems overall cost less, have more flexibility, can be more easily upgraded, and as I have mentioned, can be made far more secure. |
Author: | Bazza [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
The Lone Ranger wrote: it does seem though most hosts consider just the stand alone HD player jukebox as a different type of animal compared to the more complex true PC system. You are the one who keeps changing the definition. We have said all along that your magic box is a computer. Under the hood it's a PC, but it has been crippled so it can only do one thing and never be re-purposed or used for anything else. A total waste of money IMHO. My $200 eBay laptop does all your magic box does, and an infinite amount more. |
Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
Bazza wrote: The Lone Ranger wrote: it does seem though most hosts consider just the stand alone HD player jukebox as a different type of animal compared to the more complex true PC system. You are the one who keep changing the definition. We have said all along that your magic box is a computer. Under the hood it's a PC, but it has been crippled so it can only do one thing and never be re-purposed or used for anything else. A total waste of money IMHO. My $200 eBay laptop does all your magic box does, and an infinite amount more. ![]() |
Author: | Alan B [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
This is a dumb question. |
Author: | Lonman [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
Alan B wrote: This is a dumb question. Have to consider the source!
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Author: | earthling12357 [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
The hosts I know who are using CAVS machines do so because they are intimidated by technology. They wanted the simplest solution they could find to avoid lugging around their discs and either the salesman at the karaoke store or one of their peers showed them how it was as simple as operating their VCR (the one with black tape over the flashing 12:00). They bought their machines and took six months to load their discs and learn to use the system before taking it to a live show. These same hosts refuse to tap into the venue's tv system for an audience screen because they don't know how and are afraid to learn (they are all in their late fifties and sixties). Had someone told them it was a computer prior to their purchase they would have never considered buying one because in their minds computers are too scary, complicated, and impossible for them to learn how to operate. I'm not painting all CAVS users with this broad brush, only the few I know personally. P.S. They also use disposable film cameras to take photos at their shows and take them to Walgreens for developing and double prints because digital cameras are too hard to operate. |
Author: | Paradigm Karaoke [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
The Lone Ranger wrote: Since I was mostly a mobile KJ I looked for equipment that met certain specifications to being moved continually. Mainly Durability (it's a computer so it is as durable as a computer), Reliability (its a computer so as durable as a computer), Simplicity (find "cool change" in there without using a book like a pc host can), and of course Mobility (an 8 pound 2 rack space unit is more mobile than a slim 5 pound laptop?)
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Author: | Kuelman1 [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
I seen this post coming a mile away..... ![]() |
Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
Paradigm Karaoke wrote: The Lone Ranger wrote: Since I was mostly a mobile KJ I looked for equipment that met certain specifications to being moved continually. Mainly Durability (it's a computer so it is as durable as a computer), Reliability (its a computer so as durable as a computer), Simplicity (find "cool change" in there without using a book like a pc host can), and of course Mobility (an 8 pound 2 rack space unit is more mobile than a slim 5 pound laptop?) ![]() |
Author: | The Lone Ranger [ Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
earthling12357 wrote: The hosts I know who are using CAVS machines do so because they are intimidated by technology. They wanted the simplest solution they could find to avoid lugging around their discs and either the salesman at the karaoke store or one of their peers showed them how it was as simple as operating their VCR (the one with black tape over the flashing 12:00). They bought their machines and took six months to load their discs and learn to use the system before taking it to a live show. These same hosts refuse to tap into the venue's tv system for an audience screen because they don't know how and are afraid to learn (they are all in their late fifties and sixties). Had someone told them it was a computer prior to their purchase they would have never considered buying one because in their minds computers are too scary, complicated, and impossible for them to learn how to operate. I'm not painting all CAVS users with this broad brush, only the few I know personally. P.S. They also use disposable film cameras to take photos at their shows and take them to Walgreens for developing and double prints because digital cameras are too hard to operate. ![]() P.S. I dislike cameras and am really not much for having my picture even taken. That is just my thing though. Two weapons were used in the Vietnam war principally the M-16 v.s. the AK-47 assault rifle. Both were fine weapons but the M-16 really wasn't suited to jungle conditions, it had to be kept very clean and had a tendency to jam. That is why most troops had some tool hanging around their necks to extract jammed expended shell casings. The AK-47 could dragged through a field and still work. The design of the AK-47 was simple, deadly and reliable. |
Author: | TopherM [ Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:57 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: How Many Hosts Use A Hard Drive Player System? |
You are definitely talking preference here, not sheer simplicity. If you just want to load and play songs, like your player, that functionality in a program like CompuHost can definitely be taught in about 60 seconds. In fact, my 9 year old nephew figured out how to do it on his own in about 10 minutes at an impromptu karaoke night we had at my brother's house. It is very much as simple as your player, you just prefer your player, and that's fine. |
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