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hey everybody in case you didnt know, Shamran, one of our members (an amazing singer if you havent heard him yet) just had a baby !!! first let me say congrats....second, and i dont know if its his first child, but i remember the panic and confusion that followed with the birth of my son. he is my first child and it was quite the adventure , learning all the tricks of the trade...now i know that there are a lot of parents out here so maybe you could throw out some tips that you learned for raising a baby....ill start with the two words that i learned that doubled my rest time........
BOUNCY SEAT
perhaps the greatest invention for putting a baby to sleep ever (next to a car but with gas prices who can do that)...the inventor of the bouncy seat should get a pulitzer...
so share your tips here cause im sure along with our new dad shamran, there are others out here that could use the information
congrats shamran....i know you are gonna be a great dad !!!

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dumbdrums, you're one cool dude !!!

What to get your child, I do not know. My kids are in the stage of becoming human (passed puberty safely) so I do not know what the latest gadgets are.
After having raised two forms of life representing humans I can only tell you this! Raise kids the way they should be raised, the way your parents were raised, and if you're old enough, the way you were raised.
Kids should be seen, not heard! Stop all this new-age psychological BS of today. Kids should be spanked when needed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that! It’s because parents don’t do that anymore these days that kids are spoiled rotten.

Shamran, you want to give your child something that you, the mother and the child will appreciate? Give him love, teach him how to respect himself and other people. Teach him the right and wrongs in life according your heart. Nobody is perfect when raising kids, but when you try your best, whatever the outcome is, you’ll be able to sit back and say, “I did it the way I thought was best”

chuckles at the comments hehehe.....congratulations Sharman on the birth of your son

As a mother of 2 children who are now the right ages for demanding everything and anything and having an answer for everything being a parent can be veryyyyyyyy trying at times hehehe

I say the best thing a child needs and what my mum when i had my son (the eldest) told me is make sure you have a routine as soon as possible, without routine then you will not be able to make quiet time for yourself etc, even now and my 2 children are 11 and 7 they have routine and no matter what unless we are on holiday my kids have a daily routine...when they come home from school they have homework, then they have play time, straight after dinner they have their bath and bed at 8pm ... nooo exceptions....in their bedrooms they have their tv's and dvd's and ps2 and heaps of stuff to keep them occupied....and at 9.30pm school days and 10.30pm weekends it's lights off and sleep...normally my little lassie is already asleep ma lad the eldest has a few tutts and gripes ....yes some people may say its regimental but its worked for me.

sometimes i wish there was a set of guidelines to follow being a parent it's the hardest job ive ever had trying to make sure my kids grow up well balanced and knowing how much i love them

anyways .... thats my little bit hehehe

The one thing that helps you handle children.... I would have to say.. birth control...

Just joking:) As my little one just turned 3, I have to say, although I didn't sleep through the nights when she was an INFANT.... it was a lot easier during the DAY back then;) Wake up, breast feed, go back to sleep, poop, pee, wake up again. Basically, generally look cute all day. Scream all night. The life of a baby... hmm, sounds like a pretty good life:) now, of course she is toilet trained, sleeps through the night, and feeds herself... but, BUSY busy BUSY little thing... you spend the first year begging and teaching for them to walk and talk... the next forever is spent trying to get them to sit down and hush up:)

I have to agree with dumbdrums, we have every gadget ever as gifts.... SKylah hated those motorized swings, etc. Her ONE thing was those bouncy chairs.. we went through two of them:) TO this day, I expect to see the chairs imprint on her little (@$%&#!):)

BUT, My husbands favorite object was a manly looking baby backpack carrier thing.... beats carrying the kid around, and it looks adorable too:)


Allstar- your ending was perfect:) Beautifully well written... but, As I don't plan on getting into an argument concerning the matter... My daughter is not spoiled. Not only is she an ONLY child, and the ONLY granchild on both sides,a nd the only GREAT grandchild on both sides, and the first NEICE on both sides, but she wasn't spanked. Not once. And is NOT spoiled. She also knows that it is wrong to hit, regardless of position of "power". She has never hit either of us, nor another child. I was spanked as a child, and can't honestly say it did a damn thing, other than make me fear my parents. Although, to each their own. I don't think any ONE thing works with ALL children. although, it is hypocritical to teach your kids to not hit other people, and then hit them to make the point. (Not saying you have done that:) AS a young mommy, i am around a lOT of other parents....a nd have seen a LOT of spanking)

Congratulations Shamran;)

I have 4 kids (that I know of) ages 1 1/2 to 13.... NyQuil and duct tape is all I have to say... - tig

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The answer to rowdy kids?

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Congrats on the birth of your son!

MissyGG, you are a great mom, and your kids have probably bought you a cup or T-shirt with "Worlds Greatest Mom" on it, which I believe you truly deserve. Let me see, hmmmmmmmmm, I had a tree house, a BB gun, played in the desert and was walking barefoot while hunting pigeons. Television was limited to Friday and Saturday nights only (Only had one TV set). We as kids never walked around being bored, because there was so much to do outside, and the only time mom would see us Saturdays is when we were hungry from actual playing.


Very well said!





On a sad note though..............have you ever seen so much BS these days regarding raising kids? They have pills for EVERYTHING these days, and the following: >>> Kids having stress :roll:

I think it must be extremely hard these days to be a parent and I take my hat of to all the parents raising young kids these days! There is so much peer pressure from every Tom, Dick and Harry that the parents crack completely. Example, does anyone remember getting a small present for Christmas? If you do, why are parents racking out their credit cards and spending thousands of $$$ every year on Christmas presents as if they are not over their eyeballs in debt already? (Better then a credit card, let's refinance the house Honey!!!) I for one will not spend more the $100 / child. They do not need new cars, the latest fashions, the most expensive toys just to be better then the Jone's next door. You shouldn't have to compete with your neighbours to see who gets the biggest and best present. You don't have to spend all that money on your kids to win their favour over Christmas. Does anyone here still knows WHY we celebrate Christmas? (Forget the obvious answer "To get a new XBox")

Allstar-

Actually, my husband and I don't celebrate Christmas. (or any other holiday.... actually, I don' do weddings/marriage either, so he isn't even my HUSBAND:) (Mind ya, I couldn't afford to do the maxing out the credit cards thing anyways, I don't HAVE credit cards:) And we get a HUGE ammount of grief about not celebrating it.. For example, strangers will ask Skylah, at a store around xmas time, what "santa is bringing her"... and she will say, "nothing, there isn't a santa" Lol, and the looks we get:) I give Sky the things she needs/wants THROUGHOUT the year, not blow it all one day... The kids I know... oh my, we should call xmas greedy, selfish day (wait, that was ME as a child:) But I am rambling of course.


And speaking of pills for everything.. when I come from, ritalin is an epidemic, every other kid is put on it... to help make lives easier for the parents/teachers. Some kids need it,and get help from it (my sister is 23 and still takes it, for her learning disabilities), but every OTHER kid in elementary school is on it now... I know one teacher demanded it, or the kid couldn't come to class. I was just HYPER (and still am) and if I was in school now a days, i would probably be put on it as well.

Gilly, if I could I would give you a big hug right now! That's how it should be!!!!!!!!


Let them say what they want. You're living a happy healthy life, and have not been pulled in this mess that society has created! I feel exactly like you!



............Ritalin , Evil strikes again! Agreed once again, if you need it, fine, then use it, but as you said "I was just HYPER ", well, go mow the lawn, wash the car............mow the neighbours lawn 'till you're tired, but stay away from the pills (LOL, no pun intended, but that where this whole thread got started )

flippin heck i aint sure what to make of allstars comment about my input whether he is being nice or sarcastic, i always assume the worst so sarcastic perhaps.......i live in a rural place in a lovely cottage surrounded by fields , animals, a stream where my kids can play with fishing rods etc etc...fresh air they always get....but my son especially would prefer his tv, dvd, and especially his PS2...point answered?? i do not force modern technology on my children, its just the way things are with children thesedays...no when i was a child there was none of the entertainment for kids as their is now....we made our own entertainment just as you did allstar now about your children allstar...have they never been given stereos tv's etc etc from you?? i beg to differ

I was being honest and nice, really! Remember what I said to Shamran?




Sorry to disappoint you GrL. Nope, by kids never had TV's in their rooms, we had a family room. Stereo's, I had an agreement in the house with the kids. If you want something, save your money until you can pay it cash, buy it and I'll give you 50% of the money back. That tought them what financial independance meant and the VALUE OF MONEY! My oldest son bought his first brand new motorcycle when he was 17 (OK, I was jealous ), and when I offered him the 50% back he said No Thank You, this is mine, only mine and proud of it!

Lol @ missy:) I know what ya mean girl:) I dont think that giving your children electronic modern toys is a BAD thing. In my house growing up there was a television in every room, two in the living room, one int he kitchen, my parents room, the rec room, the garage, and both of my sisters rooms (I didn't have one.. i was too "bad", heck I didn't have a DOOR to my room:) My family LIVED on the tv.

But, Justy's (my hubby, common law, that is:) family, never owned a television.... not a one. To this day, he doens't watch much tv, and when he does, he is a little confused:) . We have one television, but it is generally kept off. Sky is allowed on half hour show a day, WHEN she wants to watch it... but she is usually too busy, and it remains on as background noise.

"ts just the way things are with children thesedays"... but, it isn't that way with mY kid (mind ya, she is only 3:) And I never owned a playstation, or.. whatever those things are:) And, Justy grew up on a farm... and there wasn't TIME for the things that kids nowadays have.... I grew up in a similar atmosphere... however, I perfered my many instruments, cooking, and sewing (and boys:) to television, and presents. Justy and I take sky canoeing, put her in activities, take her hiking, swiming and windsurfing. But, we are called bad parents for not giving her presents on her BIRTHDAY. I stopped recieving birthday, and xmas presents when I was 14 years old. Because I asked for them to stop. I am babbling:) But, basically, I like for people to give me gifts because they want to, and not just because the date on the calander tells them too.

Anyways, I bet you are a GREAT mom. Kids havign the things they want don't make them spoiled, or any the less interested in the outdoors.... In the SAME way, my child NOT having those things, doens't make me a neglectful mother. (as I get constantly told. Heck, Skylah isn't allowed junk food or candy, I know, I am a nut, but she doesn't even ASK for it.) I figure, if ya don't EVER give it to them (toys, candy, etc) they don't ever expect it.

Luv ya girl:) Smile:) We are all different, with different parenting styles, from different places around the world. Kids can grow up great and happy with ANYTHING, regardless of what parents do:)

This is such a good thread, ive got the giggles here reading allstars comment, but before i go any further, let me just congratulate Shamran again, and from what he tells me, I think there may be another item in his life for a call of congratulations, not sure yet, havnt spoke to him in a few days, anyway, back to allstars comments

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, i gotta admit i nearly fell off my chair when i read that,

First of all your kids may have turned out real fine, and im sure they have, but really allstar you cant be serious, sending messages out like that,
How why and when should you silence a child ? you dont have children like you buy a new picture to hang on the wall for people to look at and say, "awwww isnt that just the prittest picture in the world"
lets not forget that the children you want to silence are also human, to supress a human from doing what naturaly born to do will only lead to more troubl, if a child is to be told to be quiet all the time, then where does this child express its self ? hmmm! let me think ok..
suppose the child needs to talk, or needs to winge, or needs to moan , cry, laugh, shout, scream, and so on and so on, and evrytime its told to be quiet, im sure that all these feeling that are not allowed to be expressed are gonna turn into a very angry demon builing up inside the child, leading into teenage then adult, the anger will turn into hurt, and the hurt will turn into hate, for anybody who only feels hate, will not know how to love,
so i think thats the route of the problem with some of the kids today allstar, or the generation from where i came from, its a chain reaction, and people like missy are one of the few that have broken the chain from our own generation and yours allstar, now we listen to our children, and allow them to express themselves,
it still happens today allstar, where people say children should be seen and not heard, and it really sickens me, but its only lernt behaviour from there parents, thats when we still have so many angry people in the world walking around with a big chip on there block.
I have four step children and love them all as my own, and i do also like missy, have a routine, theres nothing wrong with that, if anything its preparing them for the real world,
as for the ps2 and t.v's in the room, i also agree, as they probably deserve it just like my kids, I am a great believer in reward the good and ignore the bad behaviour, not ignore the child if it speaks
so many of us follow the chain from our own parents and pass it down onto our own children, just like the kid that always saw his dad taking drugs and hitting the beer everyday,
by the time that child becomes an adult he is doing just the same, but its only lernt behaviour,
I say we owe are parents nothing and our children everything.
that dosent mean we are not allowed to love our parents, i didnt say that allstar before you jump on the reply button
but im sure you know what i mean

I don't reward good behaviour. I expect it, and teach it. But I don' reward it. I don't expect a reward when I hold the door open for an elderly lady at the grocery store. I never recieved a reward for good marks in school. Good marks benefit ME, and I should get them for MYSELF, not to receive a reward. The reward was the 100% on the report card. I was happy to make my parents proud, and make ME proud, of myself. I also didn't get an allowance growing up, not even for doing chorse, etc, around the house. I LIVED in the house, and doing chores to maintain the house is what I SHOULD do. My Parents didn't get paid for mowing the lawn, why pay the kids. I am very different from my parents (as I was spanked,- alot, as well as various other things, I don't do the same as them) but, I am who I am partially because Of the way I was raised. LIke it or not:) that is me:) I don't think we always become our parents. In many ways, The things I didn't like about my parents, I became the opposite, not the same. I learned from my experiences, btu anyways, I am babbling. Basically I don't agree with rewards. But, i d on' respect you any less as a parent. (ya know I luv ya menephes;))

@Tigger.....i used those too!! Wow...it's been awhile for me....mine are 21, 18 and 14 now....

First of all Congrats Shamaran to you and your wife!! No matter what people tell you......they will STOP spitting up!!

For me the best thing was the SWING...and now they have portable onee with lights, bells and practically whistles......all they need now is a DVD player attached.....

Bless you all.

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i didnt really mean a reward as in like a money reward gilly, aww i ment, like reward the child for being good, like when johnny has read you a book from school from start to finish, REWARD him with a hug and a kiss, or if he has helpted you do a chore in the house without you asking him, all you got to do is reward a child by giving them a smile a hug and just letting them know you are happy and proud to be that childs parent,
your not gonna do that if johnny comes home from school and says, hes just shot the head teacher in the foot, but it was an accident, are you,
hugsss gilly

"as for the ps2 and t.v's in the room, i also agree, as they probably deserve it just like my kids, I am a great believer in reward the good and ignore the bad behaviour, not ignore the child if it speaks "


Sorry, menephes, I assumed by reward you were still referring To the ps2's and t.v.'s etc.

I of course give my child hugs and kisses... but I do it regardless of her pleasing me, or doing something kind, or helpful. But I lucked out with Sky. As a first, and only child, I couldn't ask for more luck, in her being terrific:) I myself would have been a wretched first and only;)

Gilly said..


and you are so right gilly, lets be proud of our kids no matter what they do, they will all get there in the end, its called growing up

hugs gilly.

but lets loose this attitude of "kids should be seen and not heard"

I much prefer..

*Kids should be seen and not HURT!

ahhh allstar lets talk about money and independance....well my children have their chores to do as well....that is making sure each day they tidy their bedrooms...they have to tidy it daily and vaccum their rooms at least twice a week and polish the same...the only thing i do in their rooms is change their bed linen and clean their windows and move the furniture to clean under....i expect them to do that and for that they earn their pocket money which is spent on WHAT they wish for ... everything is not given to my children on a plate they do have to help and are slowly learning the value of money and i am making them independant....i wish i had not even commented in this subject because what people are saying is getting twisted....one thing i will say to finalise my comments on this subject.... as i said originally sometimes i do wish there was a set of guides to follow i will admit that parenting does not come easy to me and i make mistakes with my children as many parents do...but what i do try to achieve is to make sure my children are being brought up in a loving happy enviroment where we can all smile and have fun together...it's not always like that but even when my children are being told off for misbehaving or doing something silly (normally fighting with each other) they still know above all else that they are loved and secure ... and thats the best i can offer as a mommy...allstar please try not to take the worst quotes people say and twist them sweetie