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what should I be using so I'm not having all these recording problems (random seconds missing from my Audacity recordings preventing me from mixing tracks together).

Never have I spent so much time on something with such little results....can someone please help me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've scanned for viruses.
I've uninstalled and reinstalled the sound card.
Deleted temporary internet files.
Downloaded DirectX.

Ready to throw everything out the window.

I'm using Audacity. Sorry...

Audacity. It really is a good program compared to other stuff out there...but best of all it is completely free.

PS: Just started reading your other post on Audacity Problems. I think your problems are hardware related...and I have and will be there again... I wil read it over and see what assistance I might could offer.

Hang in there!!

I use Adobe Audition 1.0........i used to use Creative Wave....man, did that one STINK!!!....this is the only other one ive ever used....i've had no problems....except with my singing....

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Well.. I used to use macromedia's Sound Edit... until they stopped updating it... Then I DID use Audacity for a short period of time.. and then Bias's Deak, And Peak (terrific programs) And when I am short on time, I use Apple's Garaeband, (incredibly fast and simply prog.). I have MANY other Apps, as well, and have tried pretty much everything.
But, of course, this is no help to any of ya, I haven't seen many other macs users around these parts:) So why did I reply as well? Because I was bored:) Hey, you could always get a mac, I would be happy to send you lots of programs:)

I now use the new Cakewalk Sonar 4 and Audacity 1.2.2 that is all.
that is all I need. Audacity sees alot more use than Sonar.

I have protools HD 192 but don't use it... it's overkill. It's only for Industry projects, that require more than 32 tracks of recording. I'll never see it in showcasing.

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Brian D.
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On the rare occasions when I record these days I use (and like) Cool Edit Pro 2.1.

Digidesign soon will be releasing a ver. 6.9 (Protools) Limited Edition (LE) and regular HD editions I'm going tonight to look at the costs and feasability of the LE software in the stand alone pc's for our use and get a demo, and mention our use to thier reps. and find out if they are interested in making the 8 track full working demo available on the market to users like us.

I believe this will open the doors to ease of use and make professional sounding Mp3's available to all including showcase artists here on KS, as well as the Indie Recording Industry worldwide.

I just hope it don't fall on deaf ears as I have prepared an extensive proposal to show them how successful this could be and the market share they are not reaching.

Wish me luck.

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Brian D.
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Not to stirr the pot here Brian, but are you saying that people not using this software cannot create professional sounding Mp3's ?

Just asking because I have heard different on the SS

I don't have any need for recording 8 tracks at home. The 'lesser' products work just fine for recording my submissions here. In a studio 8 tracks might be necessary (actually from what I've seen that's actually a little low for most studios) but when all music is premixed and provided already as an MP3 or from disc and I add a couple singers I still top out at 3-4 tracks. With a 'normal' soundcard I have two tracks available for recording (left and right). For the average person belting out a couple songs at home to post it seems overkill but if you are doing home studio work with live musicians/midi equipment it's likely an excellent fit.

The quality of MP3's is derived by a number of things, among them sampling rates, bitrates, the codec used to generate the mp3 from the original source, and the quality of the original source. LAME has time and time again proven to be one of the best, if not the best MP3 codec on the market (as in best implementation of). It's available for FREE and is used by Audacity to generate the resulting mp3 files. No matter how many tracks I start with they usually get mixed down into two tracks (left and right) when the music goes to press so I fail to see how this product will make my subs 'better'. I do all my mixing externally on a Soundcraft board designed for recording.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see the fit to the home karaoke singer. Most of us are looking for a stereo recording software package that allows us to apply effects after the tracks been recorded. Cool Edit Pro, Audacity and a few others fit this bill nicely without breaking the bank. While my understanding is that you have a need for more than this many of us don't.

I'm just offering my opinion and hopefully pointing out tactfully that much of the audience here doesn't fall into the pro audio or DAW customer base. Many of the singers here are still recording on small $3 computer mics! While I myself an guilty of pushing the use of external mixing (mainly with the Soundcraft Compact 4) to use better mics, etc I sometimes have to remember that not everyone has $130 to drop on a mixer and $50 to drop on a mic when what they have already sounds AWESOME. How do you tell someone using a $3 mic and a turtle audio soundcard built in the motherboard that is turning out professional quality (or near pro quality) mixes that they should 'upgrade'? I usually get laughed at when I try.

Please don't be offended or upset. I'm just stating my opinion based on what I've seen here over the last couple months.

No.. Please don't get me wrong here... and I'm not offended at all...
the whole idea is to find the ease of use of Protools, in a software only version. without having to buy "M-boxes or hardware".

My idea was to put a entry level form of Protools in the hands of EVERYBODY that wants to learn how to use it, and record on it.

The idea was very well recieved, and it will go back to the powers to be.
the Idea was to put out a "Home" version of Protools (similar to Cool edit or Soundforge) but 8 tracks in and stereo out on any existing audio card or interface, that can be upgraded to a "LE" with hardware such as an "M-Box" or a "002 version Rack unit or console". and the idea of this is that it all could be affordable licensed yearly with the plug-ins at around the cost of Cool edit with the same full functions of Protools LE, just less plugins and no control surfaces, once you buy the M-box or Protools 002 control surface or the rack hardware... all the full bells and whistles come with it. Which is more than anyone here will ever need. Or you could download by purchasing the plugins one by one. Unfortunately they are not inexpensive to do either.

I still believe the Home version of this software will see the streets and it will be a big competitor to Sony and Adobe.

I think the idea was to keep those who want more for less in mind.. especially those indie artists.. Personally The Karaoke media Manufacturers would crap thier shorts if they saw what I saw in ver. 6.9
If 20 highly patient and extremly creative singers purchased the M-box and installed it in thier homes... There would be issues... it's that good!

I may actually switch over and upgrade on RTAS system. And affordable too. My TDM won't take much to do in the other studio.

Those who have TDM systems in protools (hint to Media Manufacturers...
and Studios that may read this... The upgrade will be free...)

Protools LE with the "M-box" start at $500.00 on up depending on where ya shop. For the whole system before the upgrade, and it releases in a month.

digidesign.com

This all just went over your heads... Didn't it?
Like I said...
It's good stuff Maynard and the prices are coming down to earth on it.

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Brian D.
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I totally didnt get that part, can you spell this one out for me cause I dont see the connection...?

I-N-D-U-S-T-R-Y S-T-A-N-D-A-R-D F-O-R U-N-D-E-R $-1-5-0-0- USD!

Top to bottom... Does that help?

In short you could have the best home platform and build it up one piece at a time for a total of $1,500.00 USD. (minus PC & mics That's software plug ins & hardware only) I think that's a heck of a deal. Instead of spending tens of thousands for a TDM system and producing label quality. when you can do it at a couple of hundred at a shot. And if my other idea does come to light it would be reduced to a hundred or two, a year.

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Brian D.
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You'll have to excuse me (and many others I suspect) I barely understand what you are talking about... :-/

What's an M-Box or a TDM....

How is a singer having such a setup at home going to supplant the karaoke media manufacturers... ? They would still have to somehow produce the music tracks, would they not?

I still think maybe I missed something here...


I have to agree with Karaoke-meister in that this probably doesnt apply to most of us "average-joes".

Basically he's talking about the ability to do studio level work in the home. While fine for those with a need to do professional recording (demos, voice overs, independent labels, etc) it would be a huge help. To those wanting to submit to the showcase a couple recordings a week it's gross overkill.

BHB: Yes, I understand that for some people it's the best thing since sliced bread and why you're excited about the potential release of the product. Like people that do loop based music (Dance music, etc) Reason and similar products allowed them to move the creativity from the studio to the average spare bedroom for a small fraction of the cost. I just don't have a 'need' for it...

KM,
This post was geared at the small percentage who "Actually" wish to take thier product in the showcase to another level than where they are at...
Should I clarify... OK... They are the extreme ...They want to take a shot maybe at the industry or maybe want to get in as an engineer recording demos, or want the best product possible..

Granted this product is NOT for everyone.

digidesign.com

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Brian D.
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Ahh.. then feel free to ignore all of my postings in this topic <grin>

I understand that. That's why I said it's geared towards independent labels and those wanting to do demos, etc.

I'm not trying to short change you or the intended audience, I was just trying to insure MikeyP understood the intended audience not beat a dead horse or prove a point. As I said before I don't to offend or p... anyone off. In the original post it seemed like it was being recommended for everyone here to run out and buy right away. I've spent plenty of time trying to get it just so some people can submit with Audacity or Cool Edit Pro let alone talk with them about midi synchronization, etc.

BTW, I love to hear the results when they finally get that first sub in! (Hi, Tigger!)

KM,
If anyone remembers the CD version of my song "Livin' It Up (On My Way Down)" in the showcase. That was done on Protools 6.7 (LE- with a 002 console) the RTAS version. It was A #1 Rockabilly song Internationally for 4 weeks. and only went to #2 on the European Daily country charts. The others were done on Sonar & Audacity. and only did a #1 in thier sub-genres in the daily internet charts. but I'm straying way off topic and Time to let this go back to where it belongs..

If anyone has direct questions about protools or this I can answer some of them, or visit digidesign's website.

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Brian D.
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