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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:12 am 
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I'm still a little new at this but is it possible to copy songs from a CD+G disc to another CD (making it a CD+G)? I would like to consolidate some of my discs and eliminate duplicate songs. If I use a CD (or DVD) drive/burner on my computer is it going to also copy the lyrics even though it isn't a CD+G drive? Is there a way to do this or do you need special software for it?

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#1 You will need a CDburner that is capable of handling the CDG ( PLEXTOR BRAND IS THE MOST AVAILABLE) - many standard burners will not do the trick

#2) You will need a program like CDRWIN or other duplicating software that will handle CDG's ( they have a sub-code that needs a special program)

#3) - You will need to overlook the fact that copying a cdg and making mix and match copies is considered illegal ...


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Making copies and compilation of CD+G discs is completely legal if you do it for your own use. If it is legal to use copied discs in your karaoke business depends on point of view and was heavily discussed here.

Regarding the software -- Power CD+G Burner allows copy and make CD+G compilations with most drives (hardware CD+G support is nearly extinct, even latest Plextors do not support CD+G anymore). More information and trial version to test with your drive can be found on Power Karaoke website.


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Be careful if you buy a Plextor.  A few of them WILL NOT write CD+G.  Contrary to what Jamkaraoke said, many standard burners WILL write CD+G if you use Power CD+G Burner.  The program is very simple to use, and recognizes just about any drive out there.  Power CD+G Burner and CDRWIN are both about the same price ($39), but the number of drives that CDRWIN is compatible with is very limited.

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you can get a list of karaoke readable/burnable drives from goldenhawk.com

I got a bunch of them from ebay. yeah, they're 10-12-18-24 speed models, but they WORK! and I paid low money for many of 'em!


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Also, slower speed gives you a better copy.


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Both Alesis and Microboards  make stand alone burners that handle CDGs, no computer or external software required. Put the master in one drawer, blank in another, and push start.

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JoeChartreuse @ Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:07 pm wrote:
Both Alesis and Microboards  make stand alone burners that handle CDGs, no computer or external software required. Put the master in one drawer, blank in another, and push start.


But they will not allow you to make compilation discs.


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Microstudio will make better copies than the original (graphic) and works with most DVD/CDR-RW players.  Be VERY careful with Plextor, they don't make many drives and most will not work with a passed date software like CDRWIN that only supports the old CDG way!  For alsmost the same amount, the new Microstudio is by far the best option in my opinion.

Most drives are now cdg compatible contrary to what you can read, and yes, you can still get a great graphic at max speed, not only low speed!  I extract & write at max speed and don't get broken letters.


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powerkaraoke @ Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:33 am wrote:
JoeChartreuse @ Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:07 pm wrote:
Both Alesis and Microboards  make stand alone burners that handle CDGs, no computer or external software required. Put the master in one drawer, blank in another, and push start.


But they will not allow you to make compilation discs.


 Microboards:  Makes both a straight duplicator AND a model that will copy one track at a time (compilation), and this is what I most recommend. It can, with it's internal firmware, also scan and correct problem discs.


 The lower cost Alesis actually CAN do compilation discs, but the source disc must be in a PC, where standard windows software ( The media player in the PC) can choose which tracks will be duplicated.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:14 am 
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JoeChartreuse @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:46 am wrote:
powerkaraoke @ Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:33 am wrote:
JoeChartreuse @ Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:07 pm wrote:
Both Alesis and Microboards  make stand alone burners that handle CDGs, no computer or external software required. Put the master in one drawer, blank in another, and push start.


But they will not allow you to make compilation discs.


 Microboards:  Makes both a straight duplicator AND a model that will copy one track at a time (compilation), and this is what I most recommend. It can, with it's internal firmware, also scan and correct problem discs.


 The lower cost Alesis actually CAN do compilation discs, but the source disc must be in a PC, where standard windows software ( The media player in the PC) can choose which tracks will be duplicated.



my only question is, why spend so much if Microstudio & Powerkaraoke does all that for something like $49,00??? Microstudio can rip, burn, do a compilation on most drive installed on a desktop or laptop??? Best option is to have 2 drives, one for the source and the other one for the back up?


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Micky @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:14 pm wrote:
JoeChartreuse @ Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:46 am wrote:
powerkaraoke @ Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:33 am wrote:
JoeChartreuse @ Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:07 pm wrote:
Both Alesis and Microboards  make stand alone burners that handle CDGs, no computer or external software required. Put the master in one drawer, blank in another, and push start.


But they will not allow you to make compilation discs.


 Microboards:  Makes both a straight duplicator AND a model that will copy one track at a time (compilation), and this is what I most recommend. It can, with it's internal firmware, also scan and correct problem discs.


 The lower cost Alesis actually CAN do compilation discs, but the source disc must be in a PC, where standard windows software ( The media player in the PC) can choose which tracks will be duplicated.



my only question is, why spend so much if Microstudio & Powerkaraoke does all that for something like $49,00??? Microstudio can rip, burn, do a compilation on most drive installed on a desktop or laptop??? Best option is to have 2 drives, one for the source and the other one for the back up?


    First, ease of use and time involved.   To be blunt , a PC is just way too darn slow. There's no setup with stand-alones.  If he decides he wants to make more than one or two, of that he wants to back up afull collection, The time savings can be measured in DAYS.

    I don't know a whole bunch about the Alesis ( my associate's unit) but I own both models of the Microboards QuicDisc- probably the best investment that I've made since going pro.  Discs can get damaged or worn. With a push of a button, the Microboards can digitally scan, correct errors, and copy 1 to one speed in safe mode,  creating a re-mastered original from a beat up disc. That feature alone pays for the unit after a few uses.It will also test a disc to see if it CAN be copied, eliminating wasted blanks.

   The fact that it's a stand-alone also means it's PORTABLE and small. If I wanted to, I could bring it to my shows, andone of my discs crapped out, I could actually create a corrected one on the fly ( However, I wouldn't recommend bringing a duplicator to a show- people will get the wrong idea for it's use).

    Though the initial price for a professional burner is much higher, even a serious hobbyist will have it payng for itself in no time.

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