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Author:	MorganLeFey [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:22 am ]
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anyone seen Sebby? She has been absent for some time again, anyone know if all is ok with her and her family?

Author:	Steven Kaplan [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:27 am ]
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Sebby and her husband come and go.. They show up, and then aren't seen for extended time periods. It's been this way since I joined the site. Some just participate in here when they can meaning they pop-in, and leave as quickly. Many don't have the consistent "regular" status a few of us in here maintain.

Author:	Chuck2 [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:00 pm ]
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If anyone sees her or JVJ, tell them I said hi.

Author:	MorganLeFey [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:19 pm ]
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how ya doing Chuckles?

Author:	Chuck2 [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:10 pm ]
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perty good I hope you're doin' well too.

Author:	MorganLeFey [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:28 pm ]
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yeah on the whole...still having wicked nicotine cravings and trying to assauge them with food...thing is nothing hits the spot ya know? I eat something the craving is still there, I eat something else same thing...I have put on so much weight in the last month. What is worse heart disease due to smoking or heart disease due to obesity?

Author:	Sheree [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:23 pm ]
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Did you quit smoking Vicki? Congratulations! :worship: I know, it's a trade-off. The weight or the cigs. I think you can conquer both. You are a strong and capable woman. Just be easy on yourself and give it a little time.

Author:	MorganLeFey [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:25 pm ]
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yep havent had one in over a month hon. But I am terrified of getting too fat to move I feel like the goodyear blimp

Author:	Sheree [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:37 pm ]
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Aww... you've done something GREAT for yourself. It's tough because gaining weight can put a damper on your accomplishment. But keep reminding yourself that you've that you kicked a habit many will never be able to kick. But I know how you feel. I've been circling stadiums and I'm selling ad space on my belly.

Author:	MorganLeFey [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:05 pm ]
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err honey you are nowhere near my league trust me on this...and no I do not suffer from abnormal negative body image syndrome...I is what I is...my archilles' are screaming after a gig and I can barely walk the next day. My back is killing me so are my knees. I give up smoking and everything else gives up in protest

Author:	ok What Now [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:08 pm ]
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hi morgan, so glad to hear ur still not smoking, me either over 4 mo. for me...and yes i gained weight big time...i was also eating alotta salt i check my b/p it was thru the roof so i'm on a salt free diet now...zero salt gagggg, but i have to do it....its down now thinking about piggin out....ll... ....kinda sorta.... really happy ur still not smoking i was worried for you...tc hugsss

Author:	MorganLeFey [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:34 pm ]
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yeah whats wiv the salt thang?? I thought food was supposed to taste better once ya give up smoking...if food tasted better we wouldnt need to pour on the salt. I refuse to check my BP cos if I do and its high the doc wont give me diet pills...and I lurve those speedy likkle suckers

Author:	Sheree [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:46 pm ]
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Well, if the doc is worth his salt he won't prescribe any pills until he takes your BP. Gotta be safe! :yes: Sea salt is a good alternative. It's still salt. But sea salt doesn't contain iodine or any other additives.

Author:	dumbdrums [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:17 pm ]
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i have somehow lost my girlish figure as well..four months down just like Billy..i run 3 miles on the average about 3 or 4 times a week and i STILL have gained 25 pounds in 4 months...its insane !! i know how to take it off but the old rules are som much different without that cig to make me not hungry..all i gotta say is im gonna lose this weight and buy me a new dress and jellis and go out on the town lookin for chicks !! hang in there you guys, you are not alone !! we WILL live longer, i am sure of that! congrats to both of you !

Author:	ok What Now [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:53 am ]
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dumbdrums @ Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:17 pm wrote: i have somehow lost my girlish figure as well..four months down just like Billy..i run 3 miles on the average about 3 or 4 times a week and i STILL have gained 25 pounds in 4 months...its insane !! i know how to take it off but the old rules are som much different without that cig to make me not hungry..all i gotta say is im gonna lose this weight and buy me a new dress and jellis and go out on the town lookin for chicks !! hang in there you guys, you are not alone !! we WILL live longer, i am sure of that! congrats to both of you ! sure we'll live longer but who wants to now?....lifes not near the fun it use to be....i remember thinking life is so good after having a cig....take me now god i'm ready....but now i'm holding off on him/god taking me in hopes they find out cig r in fact good for you....gotta have a dream r a goal to reach for.... tc guys...billy

Author:	Steven Kaplan [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:40 am ]
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Quote: lifes not near the fun it use to be It's not near the fun it used to be yet. You're going to have to wait perhaps a year for that to happen ! There's nothing quick about overcoming THIS particular addiction I didn't say this before, but, after heavy smoking for a long time-period the first 6 months (minimally) following quitting are sheer hell. The first year (VERY few, none I've ever known actually) that were actually addicted don't function as they did while they were smoking, and after about a year of being smoke free, the loss BEGINS to become tolerable. Don't expect things to appear easy the first year.. You aren't going to see quick relief from this addiction.. You don't quite at first expecting life to become all peachy, you quit because inhaling smoke all day and abrasive substances are poison. There's a reason people join local support networks for this, you aren't going to do well, if you try to do this without A LOT of support ! REAL and local support. To minimize the difficulty of kicking these drugs is doing yourself an injustice.. You quite because YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO. If you don't know and feel that with all your being, the odds are against you staying off the substance The nastiest part of being addicted to cigarettes is the LONG time period the body and mind take to adjust. Since nicotine is a stimulant, almost everybody gains 30 lbs the first several months of being smoke free. Exercize, a means of filling the void, and knowing those things ARE poison to your body is what it takes to quit.. To beat yourselves up over weight gain is counter-productive.. First quit the ciggies NO MATTER what else goes on, after that, worry about the side-affects of quitting.. In my case (4 packs non-filter/day), for some reason I never had probs quitting. I felt tempted to pick one up, but narcotics and alcohol although not particularly tough for me to quit when I made up my mind to do-so the final time, but having to feel emotion and fear was total HELL. Life wasn't fun, it wasn't enjoyable, I was just biding my time trying to exist thru it's daily blows... When you get used to depending on a stimulant to "pick you up", and provide the "good times" for you. It takes a LONG time to find an internal means of providing yourself with a substitute.. This "Tantrum" period is common. "OK. I've been smoke free for months ! So where's my reward" ? It comes after your body and mind adapt to being smoke-free... You in time level off and learn to depend on YOU, and no external drug to make stuff more fun.. Just how it is.. Giving up a habit of several packs a day for years is a type of death.. You had to let an important part of your life (for a long time period) die, to in time live a better longer life.. Loads of patience.. The mind-$U%* games are no where NEAR over after ONLY several months !

Author:	MorganLeFey [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:41 am ]
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ya know something Billy I dont feel like life is as good either. When I smoked I was content with my own company...now I have to try and find things to keep my mind occupied so as the cravings are managable. They said food would taste better...thats crap...they said my sense of smell would improve...but it was good before so I notice no improvement. Sure there is a clarity to my voice that wasnt there before BUT lets be realistic...my voice is average at best, the smokey lows gave me something other women didnt have. I dont think clarity is going to improve my voice or my performance. Clear and an average range is the same as everyone else...I might as well give up right now. What gave me the edge was the depth of my range Sorry but smoke free sucks

Author:	Steven Kaplan [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:00 pm ]
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Quote: Sorry but smoke free sucks No it doesn't, not for those that give themselves the time it takes to be "cigarette free", and it's a MUCH longer time period than a few months. The PROCESS of giving up a major addiction is sheer hell, and something you must be prepared for ! Every game that can be played with your mind and body to get you to start smoking again is going to happen the first 6 months. This addiction is a MAJOR mind-F*, Addiction is an UGLY word, I know, but this is how it plays around with us. Not just like a flu that makes the body miserable, this sickens the mind too. Don't minimize how tough this is. If you aren't prepared for what happens when you give up heavy smoking, AND the duration of hell, you won't be able to quit ! Others have kicked the habit, it's possible. EVERY major addiction (and habit) -including compulsive over-eating, (perhaps the TOUGHEST)- that I kicked and still work on kicking was accompanied by these fits of anger, and wanting to negotiate and blame, or bribe someone/something "or else I'll start the substance again". Life was boring, difficult, and I thought I was a masochist for giving up the addictive substances.. This is ALL part of the process when getting over an addiction.. Yeah, there's anger.. Hell yes ! You need to try to step out've yourself and watch how this substance has your addicted mindset throwing a tantrum to resume smoking again. When I was going thru Opiate and Barb & Benzo withdrawal, I was told that I CAN NOT trust me mind all the time, reason being, "The mind at times is out to get us", strange, yeah... But it is.. You just need to know YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SUCCUMB to the mind-f* games... remember, the substance uses our minds to try to get it's way.. If ever there was some sign Satan exists, it's in the addicted mindset, (at least it almost seems that way); The substances take on a real life fighting form that lingers in our mind as a means to TRY to keep us hooked, it's almost as tho it's ALIVE and has a personality... The addiction is very alive and strong in our mind tho.. Give it time ! Get LOCAL support, and don't assume you can float right thru this tough process. There are groups for people giving up smoking. You need to know that ALL go thru this hell if they are addicted. This IS one of the strongest addictions, it's not just "cigarettes"... It's a major chemical addiction that's NO easier than the harder substances.. Might be tougher due to it's nasty duration, and ease in attaining.

Author:	dumbdrums [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:26 pm ]
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just when i feel that the rewards arent worth it, i look at my 9 year old who is so proud of what i have done..he is a different kid since i quit..thats what makes it awesome for me..if it was how i felt about myself, i never would have quit.., my son serves a higher purpose for me than just a chore doer..since his birth, i have had the strength to do so many things..lets face it, if it werent for our concern with others, we would never quit..if it werent for the naggers in our lives we would smoke till we die..happy to say that me , billy and vick are 3 people who should be envyed a little..although we seem miserable, we have done something so huge that for the rest of our lives we can do anything ! im proud of you two, and you as well steven cause i know you have kicked a lot of addictions as well..id drink to that but i quit that too !

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