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I guess one that gripes me is the host who will ABSOLUTELY not allow singers to submit more than one slip at a time - I have always taken as many as they want to give me, in the order that they want to sing them. They can change their mind, too, as many times as they want - even if I already have the song cued up. It's THEIR show, I tell them. Nobody seems to abuse the privilege. :oh yeah:

So I guess that sort of covers two pet peeves of mine - a host who won't take more than one slip at a time, and one who says, "NO changing your song!" Nothing like an immovable automaton of a host who is more interested in keeping their job simple than keeping the singers satisified and happy.

I can't think of any that really rub me wrong. I like rules. Rules are designed to help everyone enjoy the evening. What I don't like to see is a KJ who doesn't stick to the rules as they've posted them.

Consistency is underrated.

Wow.. I thought more people would jump on this one.

For small rotations, I don't like the "fit new singers in" rule. I like a consistent rotation that has people following each other all night.

For large rotations, I don't like opacity. In other words, you stick in a slip and have no idea whether you are going to sing in two minutes or two hours.

I have seen two rotation systems I like. One is a whiteboard or screen -- constantly adjusted -- behind the KJ station. The other is Compuhost and their running display at the bottom of a visible lyrics screen.

Author:	Karaoke_Carlos [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Rotation rules - What don't you like?
As a long-time KJ, I'm always curious about what people think. It's been so long since I've gone to someone else's show, that I'm wondering how things are on the other side of the podium, so to speak. So... if you've got a rule that your favorite KJ enforces ... but you hate... POST IT HERE

Author:	Karaoke_Carlos [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
Wow.. I thought more people would jump on this one.

Author:	Karen K [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
I guess one that gripes me is the host who will ABSOLUTELY not allow singers to submit more than one slip at a time - I have always taken as many as they want to give me, in the order that they want to sing them. They can change their mind, too, as many times as they want - even if I already have the song cued up. It's THEIR show, I tell them. Nobody seems to abuse the privilege. :oh yeah: So I guess that sort of covers two pet peeves of mine - a host who won't take more than one slip at a time, and one who says, "NO changing your song!" Nothing like an immovable automaton of a host who is more interested in keeping their job simple than keeping the singers satisified and happy.

Author:	johnny reverb [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
She won't let me use her tongue to lubricate my vocal cords before I sing.....I can't think of anything else....

Author:	Lonman [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
Karen K @ Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:30 am wrote: I guess one that gripes me is the host who will ABSOLUTELY not allow singers to submit more than one slip at a time - I have always taken as many as they want to give me, in the order that they want to sing them. They can change their mind, too, as many times as they want - even if I already have the song cued up. It's THEIR show, I tell them. Nobody seems to abuse the privilege. :oh yeah: So I guess that sort of covers two pet peeves of mine - a host who won't take more than one slip at a time, and one who says, "NO changing your song!" Nothing like an immovable automaton of a host who is more interested in keeping their job simple than keeping the singers satisified and happy. I was pretty much a stickler on the bring one only rule for years, I have loosened up on it the last couple though. But they have to understand that just because a song may be in your stack, doesn't mean you necessarily will sing it - if a song is under your top slip & somebody else puts the song in as well (the one under your top slip), that they get the song since I don't allow a repeat of a song per night. You don't get to reserve songs just because you have a stack of slips up. Changing a song has never been an issue for me, will do it even if I am ready to hit the play button.

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Author:	homeplateBG [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
I can't think of any that really rub me wrong. I like rules. Rules are designed to help everyone enjoy the evening. What I don't like to see is a KJ who doesn't stick to the rules as they've posted them. Consistency is underrated.

Author:	Karaoke_Carlos [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
Consistency is great. Unfortunately, in the business that we "work" in... it's not consistency but PERCEPTION that becomes reality.

Author:	exweedfarmer [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
I never have cared for the idea of "rotation" as if the singer's names are assigned to a wheel and the wheel is rotated by one singer/spoke. It makes great sense from a KJ's standpoint,each singer has a pile (probably on a turntable of sorts) while allows for the singer to submit more than one slip and still keep things in order. The disadvantage is that unless the rotation wheel is visible, the singer has no idea when he is up. I have always liked the sing-one-bring-one method becasue we're so used to standing in line. I just joined so I'm at the end of the line. I guess the KJ could just pick up the pile of slips and move it to the end of the line but I found that to be impractical when I was using slips. No matter how careful I was multiple piles seemed to end up on the floor. But since I started using a computer none of that is an issue

Author:	knightshow [ Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
Karaoke_Carlos @ Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:44 pm wrote: Wow.. I thought more people would jump on this one. the reason why is you're reposting topics that have been discussed a LOT lately... this is like the third or fourth one I've seen. Not complaining, but don't expect us to rally forth and swing swords in exhuberance when we just discussed this three days ago! !

Author:	mckyj57 [ Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:39 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
For small rotations, I don't like the "fit new singers in" rule. I like a consistent rotation that has people following each other all night. For large rotations, I don't like opacity. In other words, you stick in a slip and have no idea whether you are going to sing in two minutes or two hours. I have seen two rotation systems I like. One is a whiteboard or screen -- constantly adjusted -- behind the KJ station. The other is Compuhost and their running display at the bottom of a visible lyrics screen.

Author:	Babs [ Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
Usually as long as the rule is followed for everyone I don't have a problem with it.

Author:	TTowntenor [ Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Rotation rules - What don't you like?
mckyj57 @ Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:39 am wrote: For small rotations, I don't like the "fit new singers in" rule. I like a consistent rotation that has people following each other all night. For me I like quite the opposite. Ireally don't give a rip if I am following the same person all night long. If I am there to sing, I will sing. As long as no one person sings two solo songs before me, I can see an occasional duet, then i'm fine. The insert method works as well as any other method, in fact I feel it works better than sticking everyone at the end of a rotation. At least with an insert method, old singers are still getting up in somewhat of a timely fashion, with sticking them all at the end, then the old singers have this bombardment of new singers they now have to wait through...also they are technically INSERTED in the rotation between the last & first, so why not space them out & get some of the old singers singing as well keeping their wait down as well? Quote: For large rotations, I don't like opacity. In other words, you stick in a slip and have no idea whether you are going to sing in two minutes or two hours. For large rotations, if a host is worth their weight with hosting skills, they will be able to tell you just by looking at the rotation whether you will sing again or not & approx when. If they can't do that, then yes I completely agree with not knowing. Quote: I have seen two rotation systems I like. One is a whiteboard or screen -- constantly adjusted -- behind the KJ station. The other is Compuhost and their running display at the bottom of a visible lyrics screen. The whiteboard is like knightshows line method i'm assuming? You get done singing, you sign up again, not necessarily behind the same people & tons of new singers could sign up while you are singing. Don't care for this way either, no structure to it. Checked out Compuhost, I do like some of the features that allow a host to let people know who is up next.

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