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A....would you rather have a great sound system,  all ur fav. songs BUT only sing 1 r 2 songs at the most a night...

B....sound is ok, no monitor to speak of, song list kinda sorta sucks...BUT you get to sing 4 to 5 songs a night....

personally i would choose A every time, because not only will i sound better but so will everyone else, and when u sound better you sing better, when u sing better ur in a better mood, better mood translates into a better time out....

sooooo why not seek out the better sound system, i have to believe that the better singers would....but what do i know?  

r u the type of person that when you go to karaoke it's all about YOU and how much YOU can sing r is it that u also enjoy others singing as well...so u just enjoy it all.....

A would be my pick.... One of the best karaoke venues I have attended is at the Sky City Casino in Auckland.  The sound system in the bar is set up by Universtity sound engineering students and is augmented by great stage lighting.  Karaoke starts at 7:00pm and goes till 1:00am...  the KJ uses a whiteboard for the rotation and the singer's name can only be on the board once at a time... ie, as soon as the song is complete, the singer's name goes on the board at the end of the list.  If you get there early, you may get in 3 songs in the evening due to there being only about 10 - 15 singers at the start.  But the board gets full fairly quick!

hmmm they didnt have karaoke the nite I was there

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I would pick B. I am there to sing -- that is what constitutes having a good time for me. Of course I don't drink, so karaoke is mostly a case of waiting to sing in my case -- I have no interest in being in a bar except for the singing.

A is my choice.  If the sound system sucks (or sounds ok) or the selection is garbage quality what's the point?  I don't have a me me attitude like some here display, but I don't like to sound like crap either, I don't need to sing all night.  Most people that go to the good systems are good singers themselves & It makes it enjoyable to listen to as well, so who cares if I may only get 1 or 2 songs in, karaoke isn't about me, it's about everyone that wants to sing.

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A good system has the support of the crowd (regulars) and with good singers the energy level maxes out.  If I dont get energy back from the crowd its not worth it. I'm not talking applause but its nice to look out and see a few people smiling and enjoying it and dancers on the floor.. At another show I'm not counting the singers before me in the rotation some nights I'll only sing once or twice.

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Hopefully you at least buy something worth allowing you to stay, food or virgin drinks.  Bars can't survive on water & soda sippers.

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What's the point of singing if the system sucks?  Sit outside the venue with a broken guitar and sing for the passersby.  Put a tin can on the ground and get paid to sound like crap.  Then go inside spend your money on beer and listen to everybody else sound like crap.  

I'd rather go to a place and sing two songs, play some pool, drink beer and have people remember that I rocked the house twice then sucked it up 4 or 5 times.  I can't even believe 'B' would be an option.  Oh wait, I forgot there are some singers out there that sound like crap any way and a good system can't help them anyhow.  I sit corrected.    (high fivin' myself)

I don't sing on crap systems ... period.  I filled in for a place that has a crap system this last Saturday.  Owner says "I'll pay you $100 to use my equipment, or $150 to use your own."  He'd have to pay me $500 to use his crap.  I brought my own in, and that place hasn't been that packed in two years.  For a crowd that general hops the nine bars in town on a Saturday night, they all stuck around and had a blast.  I feel sorry the the regular KJ when he comes back next Saturday and people are expecting the same energy.  

For the singers who don't spend money at the bar on karaoke nights, thanks for taking a chair away from those who do.  KJs get paid to put paying customers in the seats.  These moochers are imposters.  Karaoke is for paying customers!  Just because it's not advertised "Two drink minimum" ... doesn't mean it's free!

I'll betcha if all the moochers in each town put the $2 they spend on pop on karaoke nights each week, they could buy a crap system and switch off hanging out at each other's houses every night plugged into the TV, with a plastic microphone, sounding like crap and drinking pop.  They might even score some leftovers once in a while.   Then the rotations of the world could unite to serve the paying customer.

I agree, A would be my choice with B being an option if there were no other options.

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There is none. There are many shows I won't go to because they have crappy mics or terrible sound. But we don't have too many of those here.


If the sound completely sucks, there is no point. But you are misstating what the original poster said, which was that the sound was OK. If I can rock the house 4 or 5 times, that is what I want to do.

Boy, there seem to be an awful lot of bitter karaoke hosts around. What the heck is going on with that?

Depends where it's at. In Nashville, and Vegas, I'd expect to sing only once or twice.....in Mayberry with just Gomer, Andy and Barney...oh and Aunt B? ...well that's a horse of a different color. Depends on my mood, alcohol tends to make almost any sound system, and or singer....sound real good.... ....some times I feel like a nut, some times I don't....just my take on it, don't claim to be right....just works for me.......live and let live..... .....oh, and Goober(Opie's too young to get in)

Bitter ... nah, bad mood today maybe.  I'm tired - And my girlfriend just started a new job so I don't get to talk to her during the day.  I miss her.

It's funny, no KJ will disagree that the Pop/Water drinkers are a nuisance.  They may say they disagree, but it's why their $150 gig isn't a $200 gig.  I've never heard of a bartender who said, I like those pop and water drinkers, they're such great tippers.  It costs them more to wash the glasses then they collect for serving what's in them.  

Karaoke is a free entertainment option for cheapskates.  Anywhere else and it'd be considered loitering.  There is a stigma attached to pop/waters drinkers among KJs and bartenders, and it's not a good one.

Sometimes the truth hurts, but without it the world wouldn't change for the better.

I love gigging.  I let everyone sing.  I'm fortunate to be able to do what I do.  I do it because I like it, not because I need the money.  If things were different I might feel bitter ... Chalk this one up to a headache and missing my girl.  She's such a doll.

You definetly hit the nail on the head.......You have to like doing it...if your in it for primarily the money.....you have a rude awakening comming.....I sure hope your situation improves....... ....I'm a dude, or I'd give you a hug....

Thanks Johnny ... now I need to find somebody to give me a hug ... hey there's my cat ... get over here!!!!!!

Micky I sang in many venues and it was a standard order dont serve that guy any alcohol (at my request) And I was loved at all of them.. I cant sing when I'm drunk and after few beers my confidence is down  and I sound ike crap. The people sitting there listening are filling the till not drunk singers. I do not understand this concept 20 more drunk singers are going make a big difference in the till?

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Only because there are singers that don't support the bar by spending money.  You have stated you don't drink but at least spend money on dinner in the place you sing, you have spent money thus supported your club, but there are often times I have worked shows where I have watched couples walk in, order 1 picher of soda or water or an urn of coffee & sip it all night.  Taking up the seats of potential spenders.  YES the bartenders & bar staff do complain at these types of people, not just karaoke hosts, but we as hosts cannot monitor what everyone spends, this is up to the bartenders/waitresses.  I have worked shows before where the managers have told me so & so isn't spending any money & to not let them sing, so that's what happened.  This happened just once in my hosting career, but it did happen & have heard other stories that their bars did similar requests.  They get fed up at not making money on karaoke nights because the SINGERS don't drink, but since karaoke is more a bar activity, this is where they have to go to enjoy their hobby.  Well that's all fine & dandy, but at least spend money in the club on food or virgin drinks.  This is partly another reason to the decline of karaoke, singers that don't spend.  Why would a bar spend the money to a karaoke company to bring in entertainment only to have the singers they are catering to not spend money to compensate for the paid entertainment.  Karaoke despite what some singers may think is NOT free entertainment.  It is free to a singer, but if the bar doesn't recoup the money spent in food/drink, your free entertainment will either go bye bye or they will start charging covers & we all know that wouldn't work.  Although I have seen a $5 cover chip.  What it is is everyone pays $5 at the door & receives a token for a $5 value.  If you are a drinker, then you apply that $5 to your drink tab.  If you aren't a drinker then you at least paid your dues for the night.

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Give me 10 good sober singers and I will pack it out I cannot do it now in this area with 30-40 drunks trying to sing.l
Any bar owner that wants his singers drunk is an idiot.. Do drunk bands survive NO

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Any bar owner that pays for an entertainment that don't bring in paying customers is also an idiot & should seriously reconsider said entertainment.
Again, I wasn't saying you HAD to drink to sing but I did say at least spend money on something the club provides, even if it's food, or virgin drinks, several bars serve non-alcoholic drinks now.  I actually have an AA group of about 10-15 that comes in every Thursday that drinks Red Bulls - these go for $3.25 a can.  They are all sober drinkers, but spend good money - their entire table tab can ring out at $200-250 on average.  I'm talking about the singers that don't spend anything or spend a couple dollars for a couple Cokes all night expecting free refills - this I blame ANY bar owner, have the customers PAY for their refills regardless of water/coffee/pop IF that is all they are drinking - they should also jack the prices of these drinks up to half the average well drink.  If they WERE drinking cocktails & go to a Coke or two after their drinks, then those should be free as they are trying to sober up before going home.

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Lonman - The logic in our argument is solid.  Those that try to debate it are those that support pop\water drinkers.  

I understand there are people who can't afford to go out and eat and drink and that karaoke provides a meaninful form of free entertainment.  Just note pop/water drinkers that you're taking advantage of the people who put on the show for you.  If you're there and want to sip on a couple of cokes, lay out some tips for the bartenders who serve you and the karaoke hosts that spends thousands upon thousands of dollars to bring you the entertainment.  Of course the owners don't make out in these instances, but what they don't know won't kill 'em.  :)