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| Author: | johnn [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
Hi I can't seem to locate a search function for the forum, so apologies if this question has been covered before. I have assembled a basic home karaoke system (mixer A&H PA12, QSC amp and Yamaha Club speaker) Everything sounds great and now I am ready to add more equipment as I keep getting requests by singer friends to change keys, add echo, reverbs, etc. Can experts here recommend : 1. A key changer? 2. Any equipment to enhance the sounds, add reverbs, adjust echo and stuff. I know the A&H has some preset internal effects, but no features to adjust echo, reverbs individually. I get these requests from singer friends who are used to traditional karaoke machines with these functions built in their equipment. Thank you in advance John |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
What are you using for a player, most karaoke players have a key changer built in - you may consider just buying a karaoke player - it will be cheaper than getting an external key changer. If you are computerized, most of those programs have a key changer of some sort available. You have a nice little set-up there, the A & H board should be fine for effects it's just a matter of finding one that works & just adding enough to notice it. One of the room or plate reverbs should be fine for most songs, a simple delay would work for others, but you can add an external unit for more options & adjustability. The 'built in' echo effects on most karaoke machines are usually pretty cheesy sounding IMO. Something like the Lexicon MX200 would give you adjustable reverb, delay & other effects & being it's a dual processor you should be able to mix a couple different effects as well. |
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| Author: | johnn [ Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
Hi Lonman I have a Sony 400 disk changer but I don't think it has a key changer function. But recently, I got a (beta version) media player from a friend to test. It is being developed by a little company in San Jose. It is hard disk based so I loaded all of my DVDs into this 300G drive. The unit allows me to select songs and queue them up to play. (You can think of it as a specialized little computer designed specifically for karaoke - I guess if I could do the same thing using a lap top). It does not have a key changer function so I am looking for a hardware key changer. I will check out the Lexicon. Do you think I need a compressor gate like a dbx 166xl? Don't u have that in your impressive list of equipment? Thanks |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
I actually have the original 166 - not the XL model. I don't think it will be needed for modest home party use - at least to start, may be an add on consideration later in your investments. If you stay with the disc changer, then you may want to consider an external changer - still overpriced IMO but may work for your needs with the changer better than buying a single disc player - however if you are going computerized, then you may have other options. |
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| Author: | knightshow [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
I'm selling my RSQ505 dvd player... it's on ebay now. It has a key changer built in, and with the libraries of the pioneer dvd, you'll have a ball at home parties! |
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| Author: | johnn [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
Thanks Knight, but I am heading into the direction of computerizing. It's too much trouble swapping DVDs in and out of the player. Plus I keep misplacing discs so many times I can't find the disc people request. Lonman, Isn't there a cheap (but works well) key changer out there for $150 or so that can tie me over until I completely computerize (2 years probably). I found a Vocopro (forgot the model) but I am staying away from this brand. I owned a Vocopro mixer before and suffice to say don't want to buy that brand again. thanks |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
johnn @ Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:00 am wrote: Lonman,
Isn't there a cheap (but works well) key changer out there for $150 or so that can tie me over until I completely computerize (2 years probably). I found a Vocopro (forgot the model) but I am staying away from this brand. I owned a Vocopro mixer before and suffice to say don't want to buy that brand again. thanks i haven't heard a good external yet which is why they are overpriced for what you actually get. Here is the cheapest I found http://www.acekaraoke.com/ha2kkmo706.html Again, personally don't care for this brand either, but others have had luck with them. It should connect between the player & mixer. |
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| Author: | knightshow [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
for good home use, and pro use as well, I recommend highly the akj7000 or the 7050 mixers! Key change built into the mixer. http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=AKJ7000 |
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| Author: | Lonman [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
He's already got a great board, amp & speaker, just no key change ability in his players. |
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| Author: | knightshow [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
yeah, the problem is... either buy a player with the keychange, or add a key changer... both of which is gonna be a couple hundred bucks! |
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| Author: | marley rules [ Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Recommendation for key changer / vocal enhancer, echo, effects? |
The AKJ key changer should work firne. I have one mounted in my rack and it's your best bang for the buck. A friend of mine has the Vocopro unit and it seems to running fine after many years of use (can't say the same for his Vocopro dual tray player). I personally hate key changing, but it's a necessary evil. Cheers |
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