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Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
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Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
I don't know how to do this stuff
Author:  Dr Fred [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
I doubt it, the drives are made as units and they may not have the parts in them when first made to handle DVD burning.

A serious electronics wiz could probably get it done in a few weeks, but he would probably have to scrap another DVD burner for parts.

I think it would be a whole lot easier to buy an external USB DVD burner drive (about 80 or 90 dollars for the low end).
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
Thanks Dr. Fred.  I don't think they are even half that today.. Probably around 40 tops for a cheapo for my purposes but thanks.  I was just wondering if I could use my current Dell CD-R burner for DVD-RW but what you say makes sense.
Author:  LondonLive [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
Steven Kaplan @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:06 am wrote:
I don't know how to do this stuff


I know that the laser used for a cd has a wider wavelength than it's narrower wavelength cousin for DVD. I think the CD runs between 760 to 810 nm where a DVD runs between 640 to 660 nm. Thats how they are able to get so much more information on a DVD, for all intents and purposes the information is packed tighter. As far as a DVD reader being able to burn by changing firmware, I'd have to say no mainly because of the fact that it requires substantially more power for the laser to burn than it does to read. It all kind of makes sense , sideways sorta.
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:36 pm ]
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Quote:
It all kind of makes sense , sideways sorta.


Right,  because if I hone in on a few words contextually I can figure out that you more technical people are saying it's unlikely I can do what I was hoping I could do  LOL


                               Thanks !
Author:  LondonLive [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
Steven Kaplan @ Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:36 am wrote:
Quote:
It all kind of makes sense , sideways sorta.


Right,  because if I hone in on a few words contextually I can figure out that you more technical people are saying it's unlikely I can do what I was hoping I could do  LOL


                               Thanks !

Yupner, that be pretty much what I said, but on the upside, with a little imagination you could probably heat up a can of soup with the laser out of your dell. :biggrinthumb:
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
Or lose my eyesight.  (Considering my technical abilities this would be a more likely scenerio)
Author:  Tony [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
It is not possible for you to burn a DVD in a CD writer. You will have to buy a DVD burner for the same. Further, the DVD is backwards compatible with CD, which means a DVD drive can burn a CD, but the CD drive is not forward compatible and you cannot use it to read/ write DVD’s. The laser device present in the DVD writer is different from the one present in the CD writer.

See below quoted (http://www.imation.com) for further information:
The Differences between CD & DVD Media
CD & DVD burners have become a must-have for home and office computers as more manufacturers are including burners as standard features or offering fast, affordable drives for machines without an internal burner. And although DVD and CD media and drives have the same form factor (media size and shape), that's where the similarities end. DVD media has at least seven times the capacity of CD media — a feat partially accomplished by using multiple recording layers and recording on both sides of the media. Here is a quick look at the technical differences between CD and DVD media.
Data pits & lasers Like CDs, DVDs store data in microscopic grooves running in a spiral around the disc. All DVD drive types use laser beams to scan these grooves: Minuscule reflective bumps (called lands) and nonreflective holes (called pits) aligned along the grooves represent the zeros and ones of digital information.
DVD technology writes in smaller 'pits' to the recordable media than CD technology. Smaller pits mean that the drive's laser must produce a smaller spot. DVD technology achieves this by reducing the laser's wavelength from the 780nm infrared light used in standard CD drives to 625nm to 650nm red light.
Smaller data pits allow more pits per data track. The minimum pit length of a single layer DVD-RAM is 0.4 micron as compared to 0.834 micron for a CD. Additionally, DVD tracks are closer together, allowing more tracks per disc. Track pitch-the distance from the center of one part of the spiral information or 'track' to the adjacent part of the track-is smaller. On a 3.95GB DVD-R, track pitch is 0.8 microns; CD track pitch is 1.6 microns. On 4.7GB DVD-R media, an even smaller track pitch of 0.74 microns helps boost storage capacity.
These narrow tracks require special lasers for reading and writing — which can't read CD-ROMs, CD-Rs, CD-RWs, or audio CDs. Most drive makers have solved this problem by putting two lasers in their drives: One for DVDs, the other for CDs.
Layers To facilitate the focusing of the laser on smaller pits, DVD media uses a thinner plastic substrate than do CDs. This reduces the depth of the layer that the laser must pass through to reach the pits to record or read data. This reduction originally resulted in disks that were 0.6mm thick-half the thickness of a CD.
Even single-sided DVDs have two substrates, even though one isn't capable of holding data. Double-sided discs with two data surfaces must be turned over (much like old vinyl records!) to read data on each side.
Data access speeds DVD accesses data faster than CD and uses more robust error correction. In fact, the speed of DVD demands a new unit of measure. CD drive speeds are expressed as multiples of that format's original data transfer rate 'X,' or 150KB per second. A 32X CD-ROM drive reads data at 32 times 150KBps or 4MBps. DVD's 1X is a blistering 1.38MBps. That's faster than an 8x CD drive.
Universal Data Format (UDF) Another big difference between DVD recording and CD recording is the recording format. DVD recording uses UDF-Universal Data Format. UDF makes it possible to store data, video, audio, or a mix of all three within a single physical file structure. This file structure ensures that any file can be accessed by any drive, computer, or consumer video. UDF includes the CD-standard ISO 9660 compatibility, but CDs do not comply with UDF.
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
Is it easy enough to just purchase a fairly inexpensive external DVD writer and hook it up to a notebook ?  Or is buying an Internal type from Dell the more reasonable way to go and replace the current CD-R/DVD player with a DVD-R
Author:  Tony [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
Steven Kaplan wrote:
Is it easy enough to just purchase a fairly inexpensive external DVD writer and hook it up to a notebook ?  
Cheap(er?), easy and quick from your local supplier. Get a USB external drive.



Steven Kaplan wrote:
Or is buying an Internal type from Dell the more reasonable way to go and replace the current CD-R/DVD player with a DVD-R
Range from $70 to $130 on the Dell website. Out the door within 24 Hours.

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Advantage, no aditional hardware to carry around.
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
Thanks
Author:  LondonLive [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is there firmware that will enable a CD-R, CD-RW, DVD player on my Dell Notebook to burn to DVD-RW media ?
But what about the soup LMAO
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