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Author:  Jian [ Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:08 pm ]
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All this while I thought that Gretchen Wilson is a MALE country singer, until I listen to the song, Come To Bed. The name look male.
Anyone have similar mistake...
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:39 pm ]
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Yep,

    All this while,  I thought most of the Karaoke in the US was like the CAVS versions I listened to which were at times actual band with vocals panned out, or something done in Asia with the CAVS stuff.  I never paid attention to other backing I heard in SS, just the vocals... So I didn't realize most Karaoke used coverbands.
Author:  Odie [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:29 am ]
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No Jian, I'm afraid Gretchen Wilson is without a doubt a female, sorry!  LOL
Author:  Jian [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:00 am ]
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Odie @ 28th July 2007, 6:29 pm wrote:
No Jian, I'm afraid Gretchen Wilson is without a doubt a female, sorry!  LOL


Until this morning That name look like a male name to me. She is not played over the radio in my country and I only have seen her name in the forum and SS and have never listen to her song; until this morning. I had a shock of my life listening to a female singer. :shock:
Author:  Foxe [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:18 am ]
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ohh Jian hon lol go check out that video on youtube.com lol you'll see she's definitely VERY female lol ;)   :yes:
Author:  Jian [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:46 am ]
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Foxe @ 28th July 2007, 10:18 pm wrote:
ohh Jian hon lol go check out that video on youtube.com lol you'll see she's definitely VERY female lol ;)   :yes:


I use this site to listen to songs:
http://soundpedia.com/music/YXJ0aXN0Xzc ... index.html
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:09 pm ]
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I suppose assuming a person hasn't paid close attention to her work,  the name "Gretchen" to a person unfamiliar with certain western names wouldn't be quite so obvious as to it's gender.
Author:  Jian [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:12 pm ]
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The other name is Pat Benatar; I thought that name is also a male- as in Patrick. Until I listen to 'Shadows Of The Night'.
Author:  Jian [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:14 pm ]
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Steven Kaplan @ 29th July 2007, 8:09 am wrote:
I suppose assuming a person hasn't paid close attention to her work,  the name "Gretchen" to a person unfamiliar with certain western names wouldn't be quite so obvious as to it's gender.


You are right Steven, the name 'Gretchen' is rarely seen in the East.
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:47 pm ]
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It's not a very common name in the Northeast part of our country either Jian.  Names are cyclical, sort've fads that come and go in cycles.  Different generations have different statistics of commonly used names. While certain names might've been popular during my grandparents generation such as

Mabel
Agnes
Bertha
Enid


They are used, but not commonly.  Yet I only know about my general location. You'd have no way to know about Pat Benetars gender UNLESS you saw or heard the music.  Pat can be either gender as can Sam, Leslie, and don't feel bad,  there are quite a few non-musicians who still think Stevie Ray Vaughn is a female too.
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:13 am ]
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Jian,  How many Americans could tell a persons gender by their asian firstname ?  Few would be accurate assuming they were tested.  I see Japanese names, and I haven't a clue what gender the person is.  Chinese names are MUCH harder of course.  Nobody should be surprised that a foreign person isn't 100% accurate in telling gender based on name.  It's not easy.  When learning a language you learn words usually contextually.  But names just stand alone,  no context, and there are many of them..  They are different sounding words too.  How would a person know ?  In this country Adrienne is a female name, we wouldn't know your gender by seeing your name assuming the spelling was close.


Additionally, our "western" names are often not American in origin.  Isn't Gretchen German ?
Author:  Jian [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:43 am ]
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English names are not that difficult for me; at least most of the time. Asian names are impossible in some cases. Malay/Indonesian name are easy. Thai and Japanese; I have little knowledge. Chinese names are not that difficult, and so are Indian names.
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:08 am ]
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Quote:
Chinese names are not that difficult



Mandarin names are VERY difficult for Easterners.  Not sure about Cantonese
Author:  Jian [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:03 pm ]
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Steven Kaplan @ 30th July 2007, 2:08 am wrote:
Quote:
Chinese names are not that difficult



Mandarin names are VERY difficult for Easterners.  Not sure about Cantonese



See, my wife is Chinese.....
Author:  johnny reverb [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:16 pm ]
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I've picked up a couple girls, that turned out to be dudes.........can't remember there names though..... :( .......some times.....ya just gotta play the cards life deals you.......watch out for them Queens........Aces can hurt too..... LMAO
Author:  Jian [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:46 pm ]
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johnny reverb @ 30th July 2007, 10:16 am wrote:
I've picked up a couple girls, that turned out to be dudes.........can't remember there names though..... :( .......some times.....ya just gotta play the cards life deals you.......watch out for them Queens........Aces can hurt too..... LMAO


many of those around here; they can be..... :yes:
Those shim can sing too.

Just have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqXHrIyANBA
Author:  johnny reverb [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:19 pm ]
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Were all three males?........I think I dated the one in the middle.....still having a hard time sitting down, since...... LOL
Author:  Steven Kaplan [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:00 pm ]
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This is for Johnny Reverb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku854nLq6kg
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