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It's possible.  If-so,  those that study these areas need to know a lot of science.. QM, Relativity, and lot's of other studies here in the states.

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The people who are involved in those studies are in some case real scientist. But the subject matter is not necessarily science.

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I can neither confirm nor deny ever having or knowing anything about nothing.... mrscott

Me too!!!!  Demi Moore can really lay on the tears, huh?  But.. IMO, Whoopie stole the show!!!  



Ok, Ok ..... sorry, couldn't resist!!  


This area of "study" fascinates me, as well.  As Steven has pointed out, we know so very little about our brains ..... there is so much area in the brain that for obvious reasons, we can't "research"....... until someone has died ..... and then the neurological factors are gone ..... so all we can really look at is the tissue, etc.  

I can't always explain things that I "sense" .... or in my case, "feel are about to happen".  But...... I do know that in many many cases, what I've sensed, does in fact happen (or something similar).  Most recently, I sensed that someone was going to pass away ..... for NO REASON.  All of a sudden, I just "saw" many people very sad all gathered together ..... and I knew WHO they were mourning.  WHY????  I have NO idea.  And the thing is....... this was a person that I had "met" about 3 yrs. ago .... and had really given little to no thought to since.  Then .... all of a sudden .... I'm watching a game show on TV ..... and I "saw" this ....... for just a few seconds.  And yes, three days later..... she died.  This is the FIRST I'm sharing this publically....... but it kept me awake for three nights .... and now I just accept that occasionally things like this happen and we simply can't know why.  And....... its not the first time this type of "experience" has occured.  And.... in each case, something did indeed happen.  So ........ ?????

I liken it to a heightened "sense" that some don't pay attention to ... but for some reason, my brain brings it to a "conscious" level better than other's brains do for them.  

Visions, smells ..... who knows?  We are OF nature ...... so of course, it would seem logical that we are influenced by nature .... or that around us.  Of course, the sun, moon and stars have SOME effect on us..... after all, we are a PART of the universe, as they are.  Funny.... people have no problem believing that we are influenced by "hormonal" or internal changes that our body goes thru ..... yet, refuse to believe that there could be similar 'outside" factors that also could "influence" us; our behavior and what we see, feel, hear, etc.  

We know that there are "mental illnesses" that cause people to "hear voices", "see things that aren't really there or happening" ......Schitzophrenia, Schitzo-Affective Disorder,  etc ...... right?  Perhaps MANY of us experience something like this .... but only rare occurances (that don't significantly affect our ability to lead normal lives, or leave us unable to seperate "real" from "unreal").   Maybe THESE experiences are what many think of as ESP ... or "paranormal" experiences.  Who know?  

Oh well..... just a few of MY thoughts on all this.  My brain hurts, now!!  LOL   Time for more coffee!  

Have a Happy  :dancin:

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OK here is a real ghost story that happen to me. I have a few to tell but this is the first one.
I was camping in a swamp forest. If you are in Florida you know what a swamp forest is. There is very little dry land to even set camp. The only patch of dry land we found was supposed to sacred, and the guide would not late me camp there. But there was no alternative. He helped me set the camp and then went back to his village.
I have enough food to last me for about a week. My drinking water was from the rain because although there was water ever where it is just undrinkable. It has the color of a very strong tea.
The first night was bad. I can't hardly sleep. there was this noise; it sound like a small mammal walking around my sleeping area. the noise is enough to disturb me from sleeping.  Every time the sound come I got my flash light and shine to that direction. But see nothing. It circle my sleeping area. It keep on until almost morn. Next day I clear the place while checking for animal tracks and sign. There was no track or sign of animal. I cleared the dead leaves on the ground around me and make sure I have clear visibility. It happen every night for the 4 nights.
That was the worst camping experience. Little sleep. Was I scare; no, just very angry that I lost a lot of sleep.
The thing is, if it was a nocturnal animal I would be able to see it or at least see the marks or track. But it was NOT an animal. I know because I study them animals. If it was the wind, why was it at ground level only, and that I didn't feel the breeze.
After a week I come out of the forest to more food. I went to visit the guide; and the first thing he asked me was just that: did the ghost get angry with you? He told me that even for a million buck he will not sleep in my camp alone.

I spent the next 2 week in the same site. It never come back to disturb me. Until now this still puzzle me. What was it?  a ghost.... hell no... but the local said it is.

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Sounds to me as if you were being circled by a bat or bats Jian.  They are very fast, and irratic in movement, you wouldn't catch them easily with your flashlight, and if what you saw was a shadow, it would in fact have appeared to be a different location than the actual animal..

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It was a wumpis kitty...

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I know a bat when one is near me, in most cases I can smell them. and bats don't walk on the ground.

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I was just trying to guess what this could've been Jian.. I assumed if a bat was flying very low to the ground that MIGHT'VE been a possibility however it obviously wasn't a bat..  I always try to find solutions to these "ghost stories" too  LOL

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This past Friday in Guatemala City, Guatemala a 330 foot deep sinkhole took a few lives

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Man, that's some crazy sinkhole action dude!  Imagine just walking along and having a big hole in the ground open up and swallow you. You would know for sure, that someone didn't like you.

Hey, I was out walking tonight - (beautiful night by the way) - and as I was going along I looked across the roofs of a house nearby and a fairly large white (meteorite?) sailed down behind the houses and appeared to have held together long enough to hit the ground. I didn't notice a streak behind this meteorite which is kind of odd. It was coming down at about a 45 degree angle from straight down and looked kind of like a very bright star. If you were to look at a full moon, it was probably about 1/8 that size - which is still pretty large. It was kind of cool, but then I thought well that is until I get hit with the hypersonic blast wave that will annihilate me.  LOL  Fortunately that didn't occur. I thought it was a meteorite, I suppose it could be a UFO or alien craft, etc - but it certainly didn't make any bizarre maneuvers. I wish I had a clear view to the horizon to see if it hit.

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On another note, I made my first storm chase of the season on Friday. I was too late to catch the tornadoes northwest of Childress, Tx, but I knew I would be cause I left at 2pm. I left late because I had my vehicle in the shop for maintenance. My target was Childress by 4 pm, and had I done that I likely would have gotten a tornado or two as a couple happened just a county or so away from there.  I went anyway cause my Mom was having a birthday and decided to visit.

What was interesting was on the way back to my Mom's house I ran into a storm cell moving at 78 mph. At first I thought I could beat it to an intersection along my route and steer clear of it, but that was before I found out on radar how fast it was moving. After the next radar scan the storm had covered about an entire half a Tx county in about 6 minutes. That's fast. I was driving really quickly to head it off, but realized it was hopeless and if I continued I would be right in the middle of the heavy precipitation core. There was a tornado watch out for this area, and conditions were supposed to be favorable for tornado formation so I didn't really want to core punch it in the dark. Instead I reversed course went back north about 7 miles (the storm was moving from WSW) and then shot ESE to try and beat it that way - very quickly. Nope. It had me beaten there as well. I finally figured out there was no way I was going to beat a storm travelling that quickly. I also realized that if I had just stayed put it would have been out of my path really soon. Anyway, it was kind of fun to play "chicken" with a fast moving supercell at night. I also got to test out the new tune up on my vehicle.

There may be another chase as soon as this Wed.

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Something else I need to research now Bill  LOL.   I assume a meteorite when entering our atmosphere (and does this mean ALL meteors we see enter at a 2% angle or allowable margin of entrance otherwise like space-craft, they'd bounce off our atmosphere?) upon entering atmosphere, their travel is slowed down by gravitational friction (hence burning) so there wouldn't be a "hypersonic blast" once close to surface of earth.    I'm going to do a net search, and see if any satellite parts, or air-craft parts were lost in your area the night you saw that phenom..


Thing about the Guatemala city Sinkhole, Bill,  is it's not just big, that's 330 feet deep.   You realize how damn DEEP that is ?   I've been trying to search the net to find floodlight aerial views looking down towards the bottom.. I assume there's water that's at least partially filled it, but that's a damn deep hole !

Come to think of it,  that'd make a decent bunker or sub-basement, maybe even an elevator shaft for a new subterrainian city... Assuming of course one can stablize the soft unstable land that created the sinkhole to begin with  LMAO

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From what I understand time does exist, but it is relative to the speed of light. Time is kind of like the background against which all events transpire. But time is strange, as it is not absolute as everyone once thought.

I think the Big Bang theory of the universe goes a long way to show God exists. When you consider that the entire universe began as a single very tiny singularlity as I understand from a point possibly infinitely small. God said, 'Let there be light, and there was light'. Within seconds the universe was millions of miles across. Light - a form of energy became matter, and mass and so that which was shapeless and void became something. From nothing came something. In that original moment the concept of God is as scientific as any other concept such as evolution. Should something come from nothing on it's own? Or, should something come from nothing because an entity (God) decided to do it? In this case, which came first the entity / force which created everything or the nothing which created it? In this case they are both big leaps of faith, and yet we do exist....don't we?

In truth God is everything. He is in and part of everything. As is said he is the first and last, the alpha and omega, he IS. He is the state of existence and reality.

That is what I believe. I'm pretty sure that was Einsteins view of things too. The problem with most of us, is we are too narrow minded. Existence is immense. We have to allow our minds to expand and understand that we ARE. Once that is understood, and it's implications then we can start to possibly understand the true nature. At a minimum, I believe based on what I said above about the singularity forming that gives at least a 50% chance of the existence of God.

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Bill,

       Like yourself,  I tend to view things from the safest perspective, being "As I understand it".  I have a fascination in this phenomenon, but watch from a MUCH greater distance than you do  LOL.   There's loads I don't know,  there's loads NOBODY knows, however A LOT of what is current "theory" in science makes no logical sense to me either. What we believe, or think, often is only the culmination of a set of doctrines that we've been exposed to, MUCH of what will be disproved in time, however VERY little is postulate.  Anything starting, or ending in the concept "God", might as well be reworded "We don't know". IMHO..  I just personally can't believe that a concept *I* believe to be so obviously man-created such as God, can in ANY means be used as empirical evidence relating to Natural Sciences, and factual tangible Natural events.

     "Time" is related to "Memory", and this is where things get pretty messy. We can only show that it's another man created concept.  Does this sound strange as all hell ?  ABSOLUTELY ! BUT, what evidence is there that "time" isn't just another "man created" concept ?  Does ANY math take into consideration, or show "past" "present" and Future" ?  (This is part of Hawkings dissertation, or Hawking Physics).  Obviously it seems to exist, AND, in our "mind" it MUST exist, but so does math and science, correct ?  Both Math and Science are inductive MAN-CREATED languages.. Based only on that which we already know...  This is what is so bizarre, How do you show such intangibles as "past", "present", & "future" as ANYTHING beyond an aspect of our own set of beliefs, and memory ?  To say "We are proof", that all these conditions exist, really says what ?  Take away memory, and a person can't conceive of "time". However, is that evidence that in the healthy mind time doesn't exist except in "thought" ?


      Let me give you a brief concept of my own feelings on tangibility, or cultural "God" belief.

      Walking down the street with my arm around an invisible "rabbit" named Harvey in our culture would make me a certifiable nutcase..
       Not loving, believing in, or praying to God in our culture would disqualify me from MANY jobs and positions that require "competency" and "good character" as requisite !

       This bothers me.


        So, When I say "God created", or "Act of God", although I accept there's more out there that we don't control,  I don't ascribe to a deity creating certain Natural storms.  I tend to use the phrase loosely.  I do look for answers, but "God did it", tells me nothing.

         I can't say anything regarding the existence of "God",  I'd LIKE to believe there is a God, that's all I can say regarding this, I have no other evidence..
         Sure,  Some say "you can't see the wind either", (Well, I'm sure you'll disagree here ),  but I have experienced the Wind, I have felt it..  The existence of wind, water, fire, and other natural phenomenon transcends existentialism..  This is my feeling.. When we get into aspects of Metaphysics, I think it's best to be able to provide evidence regarding Relativity, QM, Epistemology, and other aspects that become extremely abstract, but still concepts that have basis in understanding, and can stand on their own legs to reasonable extent when up against scrutiny of evidence, and logic.
         Natures fury IOW, MUST have pragmatic answers, whether we can understand them yet or not. For these reasons it's obvious to me as to why the mathematics/ quantitative Scientific comprehension involved in Cosmology is enormous. Big Bang theory I've read very little on, I have a general understanding, however not enough of an understanding in principles involved to form any ideas regarding.  Same with Evolution vs Creation theory.  I've been to many debates, and end up seeing a few very bright individuals arguing symptoms without an understanding of cause yet... or a few debating parties holding bottomless cups  LMAO

(The floor just ends up quite messy when it's time to leave)
JMO

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Anyone see the recent photo's of Saturn ?  Pretty interesting !   Also,  what's the latest thought regarding number of Planets in our solar system ?   Wasn't there some feeling over the past few years that there might be another planet beyond Pluto ?  or was it Pluto is actually a Star ?   I forgot..

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pluto was to be excluded

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Thanks Vicki,  That's certainly how it appears now that I've looked this up..

(There're now "save Pluto as a planet" orgs)

http://www.plutoisaplanet.org/


February 28, 2007
Pluto-Bound New Horizons Spacecraft Gets a Boost from Jupiter
NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft successfully completed a flyby of Jupiter early this morning, using the massive planet’s gravity to pick up speed on its 3-billion mile voyage to Pluto and the unexplored Kuiper Belt region beyond.

“We’re on our way to Pluto,” says New Horizons Mission Operations Manager Alice Bowman, of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (APL) in Laurel, Md. “The swingby was a success; the spacecraft is on course and performed just as we expected.”

New Horizons came within 1.4 million miles (2.3 million kilometers) of Jupiter at 12:43 a.m. EST, threading an “aim point” that puts it on target to reach the Pluto system in July 2015. During closest approach the spacecraft was out of touch with Earth – busily gathering science data on the giant planet, its moons and atmosphere – but by 11:55 a.m. EST mission operators at APL had established contact with New Horizons through NASA’s Deep Space Network and confirmed its health and status.

The fastest spacecraft ever launched, New Horizons is gaining nearly 9,000 miles per hour (14,000 kilometers per hour) from Jupiter’s gravity – half the speed of a space shuttle in orbit – accelerating past 52,000 mph (83,600 km/h) away from the Sun. New Horizons has covered approximately 500 million miles (800 million kilometers) since launch in January 2006, and reached Jupiter quicker than the seven previous spacecraft to visit the solar system’s largest planet. Today it raced through an aim point just 500 miles (800 kilometers) across – the equivalent of a skeet shooter in Washington hitting a target in Baltimore on the first try.
 

(Just think,  in only 8 years it will be near Pluto  :O   ),    That's even a longer flight than flying to New Zealand from the United States !!!!


52,000 mph ??   Is there that little friction "out there" as to not create massive melting or burning heat at such a speed ????   It's using Jupiters gravitational pull to accelerate it, so wouldn't that mean there's friction ????   Dunno.... Time to call dad !!  LOL

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU