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yes but the software still has to import it manually, which is an extra step required either by rebooting the software, or at the beginning of the night when first load it. This 'built-in' process is 100% live and automatic.

Perhaps an example will clairify it for you.

you have your kiosk software installed with built in store.

A person wants to sing 'beautiful noise' by neil diamon which is not currently in your collection, but is available for download.

The singer clicks on the 'purchase this song' link and the following process happens 100% automatically without any kj interaction at all


1. The software checks to see if you have enough credits available to buy the song.
2. if a credit is available, the balance is updated, a link is estabilished and the song is downloaded
3. the software then parses the file name and adds it to the available catalog so that the song will be available in the future to sing
4. The song gets added to the rotation, under the singer's name

with most software you have to download the song, and then tell the software to import it and then que it.

See the difference?

I just bought a couple of HD tracks from Sunfly's website. No problem at all.

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Really you would let your singers just buy a song cuz they wanted it? Wow let me come to your show I will run you out of credits in a night.

Not a good idea IMHO. I don't care how easy it is. Now if a singer wants to purchase the credit and then have you get the song it would be OK. Why would you purchase a song that 1 singer might only sing 1 time and never again because they 1. Never come to you show again, or 2. Didn't like that version so they never sing it again.

These are your credits that you have paid for not your singers.
Not sure why you have to reboot just because you added something.

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Yes I do.

Back in the day I would drive out to Lazerland in Missasauga, Ontario just to buy a full disk and spend 20-60.00 just becase it had the requested song on it. Thus making my show the best in the business because I always had everything to offer, keeping patrons coming back to sing that same song week after week.

in karaoke it's a very small price to pay to stay on top. Now a days, Digital downloads is too convenient so yes at this point in time I would most likely waste alot of credits in pleasing everyone at my show.

In conclusion that's why the Pro Subscription offered by KaraFun is convenient for me at an expense of $4.00 per show.

I will be honest in saying that when I sold all the SoundChoice disks, I had to let many of my singers down because SoundChoice doesn't have a Downloads site to purchase the Songs individually or even a pro subscription service but in case they do, I have set aside a nest egg and will be going on a "Purchasing Rampage" when or if they ever offer such a service.

I often buy per request downloads. Usually getting something new at least once a night and have bought as many as 20 songs in a single night. Will they be sang again? Who knows but it made someone happy that night. But i have had many obscure requests over the years that have been done several times by others making the statement "man i cant believe you have this. No one has this song ever!" Also if the version isnt good, then i look for a better version if available

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thanks for the example JC, i see what the talk is about now. granted, i do not have to restart my software for it to import to the library, but i can see how others would need that. neat feature, but not enough for me to loose the other features i have. i do appreciate the example so i understand better.

i'm like Lonnie, i buy songs for people all the time. as opposed to discs where three songs would ever get done, i buy them for someone singing them that night. at least one time every song will be done and that is a huge step over the old way. and more lately i have been getting the same "i can't believe you have this" when they hit the "just added" button.

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Really you would let your singers just buy a song cuz they wanted it? Wow let me come to your show I will run you out of credits in a night.

Not a good idea IMHO. I don't care how easy it is. Now if a singer wants to purchase the credit and then have you get the song it would be OK. Why would you purchase a song that 1 singer might only sing 1 time and never again because they 1. Never come to you show again, or 2. Didn't like that version so they never sing it again.

These are your credits that you have paid for not your singers.
Not sure why you have to reboot just because you added something.[/quote]

Well i used to do it that way, yes but it just got too expensive so i should have been more specific. In my case, each singer has a user account that can store their own credit purchases, so when they download a song, it uses credits that they have paid for themselves.

I still have a 'request list' that i periodically go thru and if enough people have requested it, i will buy and put it in the database myself

-James

Exactly what I am talking about. Buying for your customers is great but just letting them pick songs at random and purchase them at whim on your dime no so much.

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Okay, we've implemented credit vouchers that automatically apply a 20% discount any time you spend voucher funds (look for "Store Credit" links on the site). These can be purchased in $20, $50 and $100 increments.

You can also use that discount with most types of other coupons and codes. That means you can double up on our Black Friday through Cyber Monday sale (coupon code "blackfriday"), for an additional 20% off.

We've implemented a few singles, with options for full motion background or solid black background at 720p, and classic MP3+G. Selection isn't where we want it to be at the moment, as we're still ingesting the last 12 months of releases into the site, but it'll gradually improve over time.

Constructive feedback is of course cheerfully encouraged.

So what is the other Karaoke Cloud download store? Is that one going to be phased out as you move all the download singles to the new site?

I found the list of 'singles', It may be better to put the track info (title & artist) below the picture, trying to read it on that colorful background is really hard to make out.

Also it's awesome that you are offering credit packs now, however might I suggest that the $20 pack gives a 10% discount, the $50 gives a 15% & the $100 gives a 20%. There is no incentive to purchase the higher $$ pack if the discount is the same on all the packs. Make sense?? I'll buy the $20 pack as I need it as it breaks down to the same price as the $100 pack.

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-James[/quote]

Exactly what I am talking about. Buying for your customers is great but just letting them pick songs at random and purchase them at whim on your dime no so much.[/quote]

One benefit of the gotta have it now kids these days is that they have absolutely no problem with the idea of them paying for their one off download. They just want it NOW.

I've had singers buying songs for me to add to my collection for the last 3 years.
I have yet to hear the first complaint that they had to buy a song.

The way to approach it is to look up the song for them and exclaim "Hey, it's available here on this site. I can download it right now for 3 dollars."
90% of the time they'll whip out the 3 dollars(or even a $5 dollar bill) and say "Cool, Thanks"

If they don't automatically throw me some cash and it's a one off that I figure will NEVER be played again at any of my shows, I'll gently suggest that they may want to chip in a buck or 2 towards the immediate purchase/download.

It's one of the few win-win situations in the brave new world of karaoke.

What about us KJ Media Pro users? No HD, no Black Friday discount?

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Perhaps now we know why...

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Likely so, yes.

I'm still digging into the CSS - ideally when browsing all singles you'd see a sorted list without so much visual clutter. I think I can solve this without calling in the coder.

Makes perfect sense, and I wanted to implement that very thing, but the current system only allows for a global discount amount. I'll be upgrading it ASAP, probably before year-end.

I'll look into this for you.