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Kelley
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If I tell him anything at all, maybe I'll just suggest he learn the difference tween spankin one when she wants it and beating one when she doesn't.

It's funny how my wife wants me to hurt her and put red marks on her butt when she is good, but doesn't want me to spank her when she is bad......No wonder he was confused!

A little spankin', now that's a different story. Those can be well deserved, AND well received.....  :D

But Mr. Jerk off up there was talking of a whole different scenario. Being funny is one thing, saying a woman needs beat is quite another. Ah well, we all reap what we sew in the end. I'd be the first to raise a toast if I heard he had gotten his due.

I didn't mean to trash in your thread Keith, but his statement was MORE than I could ignore. You, on the other hand, were not being rude or insincere IMO. I read your posting for what it was..... concern and disbelief about what had happened. (honest.... I'm not just being nice.... haha, you know me better than that)

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I know you like a spankin.....I was just trying to goad you a little with my last post.

Seriously, that guy is gonna suffer big time once he goes to court.....When that happens, all the bloodthirsty folks here can celibrate......Me. I'll hang my head and feel dismay at the stupidity of it all.

How the heck is he gonna pay child support and provide for his kids when he gets fired from his job and then maybe serves jail time and pays fines and lawyers?

Now you know why we call it Stupid Stuff.

Yeah, I figured that. You were just acting like Keith.  :D



Well, provided nothing more happens in the way of violence between the 2, it's the kids who are the biggest concern in this situation.

The woman, will forget and move on. He's just a man in a world of many men. Her husband, sure, but not once she gets her divorce granted. Then he's just an "ex". But women are made of tougher stuff than most men think they are. She can get up, dust herself off, and move on with her life..... leave him in the past.

Those kids..... it's their FATHER.... they'll never have another. I mean, not their blood dad. And if he beat them- they will most likely never ever forget that.


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[quote]Seriously, that guy is gonna suffer big time once he goes to court.....When that happens, all the bloodthirsty folks here can celibrate......Me. I'll hang my head and feel dismay at the stupidity of it all.

How the heck is he gonna pay child support and provide for his kids when he gets fired from his job and then maybe serves jail time and pays fines and lawyers?

Now you know why we call it Stupid Stuff.[/quot]

You still dont seem to get what I mean so... I am not bloodthirsty for this man to get what he desrves but...who the he** cares about how much child support HE has to pay or how much time HE serves...or $ HE has to spend to get HIS way out of this.

What about HER & THE KIDS. You think with HIM in jail or on skid row they are going to be any happier? $ is NOT everything ya know.I commend HER for having the guts to get away from this guy. Alot of women stay in these situations till its too late.

I would say that the WHOLE SITUATION is UPSETTING not stupid.Not just the fact that HE cant deal, what about HER & THE KIDS you havent mentioned how hard it must be for THEM... Just let eachother go. There are plenty of ways to occupy your time on earth without being in an unhappy marriage.

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[shadow=black][scroll]You have to respect your audience. Without them, you're essentially standing alone, singing to yourself....KD Lang[/scroll][/shadow]

Okay you did state that beating a woman is wrong and I understand you are saying people have a breaking point that is why they do these things. You stated this is wrong! I reread it a few times. Sure people have a breaking point for violence. I believe mine is if anyone would try to hurt my family in anyway.

It sounded like you were condoning it because you stated so many reasons people do the things they do as if it is okay. You are bitter from a tough divorce. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I am glad you did not commit suicide over it or hurt anyone, even though you may have wanted to. Divorce is a horrible thing to go through. I get you.

But, my pet, the quote above is very insensitive, I can't back you on that! I realize you are joking and trying to lighten up a serious topic. Under these circumstances
it is not funny. Please explain to everyone you know abuse of any sort is wrong because I believe you know this.

I don't think Keith or Bigdog is condoning abuse. People have different ways of coping with serious situations. Maybe their humor is in bad taste, but I think they are just coping with it the way they know how. They are trying to lighten it with humor.
Unfortunately this topic is a little to serious for that type of humor. I do believe if Keith or Bigdog walked in on a man beating a woman they would be the first ones to
defend her.

I have been in an abusive relationship. I am sensitive to the situation. If the topic was different I may laugh along with the joke, but please gentlemen can we be a little more sensitive under the circumstance.  :hug:

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Sorry, have to step in with  :2cents:  after reading some of these posts.  I truly believe that Keith is upset at seeing a coworker mess up his life - 'there but for the grace of ...'.  Second, some of his postings were what is called 'black' humor.  It is a style of humor that is predominant in the military where jokes involving that which we are most sensitive to are a way of coping with the stress.  Unfortunately, it is a style of humor that, once learned, is almost impossible to depart from.  I know and my wife is constantly reminding me of 'inappropriate comments' and 'not funny' humor.  I'm sure he didn't intend for the type of response he received especially since he is much to close to the situation.  Cut him some slack!  He acknowledges the impropriety of the individuals actions.

That makes total sense to me.

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Ohhhh I thought he was just a smart (@$%&#!) ..... a funny one but yup just thought he was a smart (@$%&#!).  And to add my two pennies It's called a morbid sense of humor, I myself enjoy it thoroughly and therefore think if you can't take the jokes get out of the forum LoL.  Nah in all honestly you can't hear tone of voice on a message board so it's really easy for misunderstandings to occur, but I agree that his intentions were only to be funny the slack cutting is a good idea

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Methinks if one lies down with dogs they get fleas.  LMAO

I was always taught since a child you NEVER hit a woman - NEVER. I firmly believe this. Sure I've had many situations where I was tempted and really really upset. Instead I hit a wall or tore up a room. It's about honor and respect, not just for the woman, but for yourself as well.  Probably if you don't understand this now, you never will. Women are the fairer / less physically strong sex - it is wrong to abuse them physically. Guess I believe in a bit of chivalry old school thought on this as well. By showing women respect and that of our family we honor ourselves. Honor is very important. What happened to honor in this country? Nowadays seems so many people are disrespecting their ladies and molesting their children! What's wrong with people? I'd never even think of harming, abusing, or molesting a child - they represent what is innocent and pure in life. By destroying it in them we destroy it in ourselves. I abhor such thoughts. I will kill to protect my family - there is no doubt. That doesn't mean I have reached my limit, it's just a standard I have.

As for limits as you say....we all have choices - always. To quote once again Dirty Harry 'A man's gotta know his limitations'. If you are in a bad situation get out of it. It doesn't have to resort to violence. If your life or that of your family's is threatened then you may protect yourself - just be aware there are consequences and repercussions to any action. When you choose, choose wisely.

In my opinion, some of the greatest problems and issues facing the US today have to do with lack of a solid family unit and respect for family members. I do agree however that women also have a part to play in this, but if the woman is that bad you made a mistake and you gotta get out of the relationship. Know yourself, and know your limitations.

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Yep.......

Except lots of men don't subscribe to the traditional 'honor codes' you described....And many women will tell you to NOT treat them as the fairer/weaker sex......So what's a guy to do if he doesn't honor/respect women as a group, or if women don't demand to be treated as the fair/weaker sex?......What does he/should he do?

He should show Self Control....Just turn and walk away.

Grave yards and jails are full of men who failed to show self control when it came to women.

They either reacted to a woman or over a woman in jealousy, anger, resentment or whatever, but the bottom line is they lost control....Then they did Stupid Stuff.....Then they died or went to jail because of it.

This particular guy will never honor or respect women as the weaker sex, and his wife is the last woman I know who wants to be seen as weaker than men.

He doesn't need to learn to see women in a traditional sense, and she doesn't need to change her attitude either.....That is impossible for these two.

What he NEEDS to do is what he CAN do....He needs to find the button she pushed and disable it so he doesn't react that way again....That is something he CAN fix about himself if he wakes up in time.

Those traditional things you described are actually what I call Social Instincts....Those instincts are quickling fading in this society, and all of society is suffering because of it.

We are losing our sense of Right and Wrong at the instinct level.....So we enact laws to enforce Right and Wrong in the place of social instincts......Now a days we a need Judge to tell a guy not to hit a woman, or to tell a woman not to neglect her kids.

Our actions are no longer limited by instincts that tell us what is Right and Wrong, but instead, by laws that define what is Legal and Illegal.

We complain that the LAW grows bigger and more powerful over us daily, but we fail to see that it must do so because we are losing our social instincts at the same rate that the LAW increases......Increased law enforcement and more restrictive laws and harsher punishment must increase in reaction to the other.

Someone once said, "You cannot legislate Morality." He was most correct, but it seems we failed to listen, and we then failed to preserve our Morality....

So it is expected that Immorality then took the lead and legislation followed in an effort to contain what became runaway immorality...Nothing is any longer scared....All social walls and guardrails are being torn down and getting replaced with prison bars and death penalties....While all of society shrugs.

Legislation will never replace Morality......But it is all we have left when the other is missing......We reject Morality with the argument of increased freedoms, but we are then forced to accept increased legislation and the loss of freedom it brings.

So stay Legal and don't do Stupid Stuff.

You made some excellent points here Keith IMO.   These ones stood out to me in particular:

"What he NEEDS to do is what he CAN do....He needs to find the button she pushed and disable it so he doesn't react that way again....That is something he CAN fix about himself if he wakes up in time."

"We are losing our sense of Right and Wrong at the instinct level.....So we enact laws to enforce Right and Wrong in the place of social instincts......Now a days we need Judge to tell a guy not to hit a woman, or to tell a woman not to neglect her kids."

"We complain that the LAW grows bigger and more powerful over us daily, but we fail to see that it must do so because we losing our social instincts at the same rate that LAW increases......Increased law enforcement and more restrictive laws and harsher punishment must increase in reaction to the other."

Ockham's Razor used with why men batter.  Well don't forget people that men are stronger than women physically.  If it were the other way around it may have been the other way around, get it?  If you know you can't win you will think twice about reverting to violence especailly having to do with split second decisions, which I would bet many paychecks that this is when lots o' domestic violence occurs.  I'm not taking up for the man here, just stating the obvious.  People love to say "that's how men are", but I'm not so sure that is the most of it.  I think there are alot of bad/uncontrolable men AND women out there who do bad things, but we tend to utilize our strong points as human beings to suceed at whatever we are doing, good or bad, right or wrong.  A man just happens to be much stronger on the average than women and therefore to suceed in causing harm will choose what he is good at.  Women lash out in other ways and I'm not going to go into that, but it can be just as hurtful.  I'm not saying men who batter shouldn't be punished, so please don't go there with this post,  this is only about why they do what they do.  things don't always have to be so complicated.