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MorganLeFey
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:55 pm |
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Steven Kaplan @ Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:58 pm wrote: http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3DNew%2BZealand%2Bcliffs%26b%3D21&w=344&h=233&imgurl=www.homeatfirst.com%2Fimages%2FKauriCliffs15.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.homeatfirst.com%2Fkauricli.htm&size=23.2kB&name=KauriCliffs15.jpg&p=New+Zealand+cliffs&type=jpeg&no=28&tt=868&oid=5dfea97cf1d7184e&ei=UTF-8
I'm looking at this golfcourse. I can't imagine anything more horrifying than a golf course with sheer dropoffs. I'd probably get killed leaning over with a long branch trying to retrieve my ball from the water...(in my case the clubs too)
Northland is temperate all year round. No frosts but humidity in summer is in my opinion hideous. I couldnt live there for that reason. Sometime I would love to go big game fishing tho
_________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel... Because those that matter... Don't mind...And those that mind... Don't matter."
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ok What Now
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:30 pm |
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Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:53 pm Posts: 803 Location: Gulfport Ms Been Liked: 0 time
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Steven...
in order to explain the logic of God i would have to think and know all that God knows, and we both know that i don't....
we really can't talk because me being a believer and you not being makes it tough....if not impossable.... u feel its a belief in something r someone because we need an OUT and excuse, not the case at all with me....I needed help, i needed rescued, i needed MORE....i didn't invent him, i didn't feel something that wasn't there, i went to him with an open heart, and i found him.....when i was going to church i seen plenty of people getting healed, and not fake healing either...you don't hit ur head on a corner of a sharp ended table and come up smiling with no pain, and being 80 yrs old....explain that? explain healing if there is no god...
i agree theres plenty i can't explain, and theres plenty i don't know but you know what? theres plenty you can't explain either on any giving subject, does that make it less true, less real?
God has a plan, that plan is in the bible...follow that plan you go to heaven, don't follow it you go to hell. read what he ask you to do in order to go to heaven, not really alot to ask i don't think...
i know it all falls under FAITH....and without it, it makes no sense at all....but with it, it makes all the sense in the world....
i don't feel presure to believe because i haveeeee to believe in something r someone
if you can only believe in what you see then your in a world of hurt because most of us deal with and believe in things we don't see.....in 1 form r another....FAITH being one of them....there r plenty of things u have faith in i'm sure....LOVE would be another, u can't see love but u do see the by product of love....HEART ACHES ....from the lose of a love one, u can't see it but u sure can feel it, doctors couldn't find it if they looked for it...but its real, its there....
But i will say this....God answers prayers, God heals, God loves....and God will never let you down....these things i do know and to me they r a FACT....
he doesn't have to prove himself to me...its ME that has to prove myself to him....and not because hes dangleing a pearly gate in front of my nose either....
bible says all healing comes from God, yet the doc. get all the credit, why?
because u can see them....
the bible tells of so many future events that have come to past, and written longggggg before they happened....what do we say about those people that wrote the bible? they could tell the future? do you believe people can tell the future 4000 yrs before it happens?
sometimes its not about logic but about FAITH....you can't always prove everything, and just because u can't doesn't make it any less real...
i ask wheres the logic in NOT believing in God...
(WHEN YOU SEEK ME WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND SOUL YOU WILL FIND ME...)
tc my friend
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:03 pm |
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Quote: (WHEN YOU SEEK ME WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND SOUL YOU WILL FIND ME...)
I wish I knew what it is you experience Billy. I looked, I tried hard. I really did, and I always am looking for something somewhere. Some answer. It would've always been my preference to believe in a "loving God", some loving deity, a belief I can live with in my head and heart. I'm glad you are content and have faith. We'll chat sometime. These boards are tough places to have down to earth talks about differences and our feelings on things. While you and I can talk about stuff, I don't want somebody to come along, and turn a discussion into a debate.. There's no debate when it comes to what works for the individual, no competition, just trying to understand different things. These boards get tough on discussions such as religion unfortuneately. Seems there's always somebody who's been affected profoundly in some way, and they often get too heated.
I respect whatever works for you, and don't wish to seem convincing that another persons belief isn't acceptable to me. I just currently perceive things differently. As I've stated, I have no answers.
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