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Many of the KJ Media Pro HD files where downloaded and are not on the harddrive.

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From PEP webpage: AUDITING AND CERTIFICATION: If you prefer to submit to auditing for the purposes of certification of your Chartbuster holdings, we will conduct an audit upon completion of an application similar to the current application for SOUND CHOICE® certification. The fee for this service is $250 per system; however, if you are currently a Sound Choice Certified KJ, GEM series licensee, or HELP licensee, we will reduce the fee to $150 per system. If you want to apply for both Sound Choice and Chartbuster certification at the same time, the fee will be $400 per system. If you complete the audit successfully, you will receive a permanent certification and be added to our directory as a CHARTBUSTER CERTIFIED KJ.

I purchased an original 12k cb hardrive, certificate expired 1/12/2013. I also owned over 300 original CB cdg’s collected over time. Would audit/certification apply only to hardrive & not the cdg’s?

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CB is a separate product, and as long as there is not a pending claim about the CB product, a defendant in a current suit can register under these programs.

I'm not sure I understand the question. If you want certification, we'll audit all of your CB holdings, so it would apply to everything. If you only want registration, you can register at the reduced price (because you have an expired certificate) and the registration would cover everything--HD and CDGs.

You'll have the opportunity to tell us what you have, and we will either figure out a way to document the original media or waive the requirement.

@ Mr. Harrington: Got it. my cb hd & cdg's. Thanks.

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That ain't gonna fly very far, but you can "ask" all you want.

How about you submit your request in writing with a non-refundable "administration/cataloging fee" and we'll take it under advisement.

Since you've claimed to have a non-expiring CB certificate, it will cost you nothing to register; all you have to do is supply us with a scan of the certificate and a group photo of your discs. (Unless, of course, that was a lie, sort of like when you lied about putting individualized serial numbers on those karaoke tracks you made.)

Hmm i am going to have to think about this one.

I have CONSIDERABLY more chartbuster material than i do soundchoice. I have the essentials 1-6 and somewhere around 30-40 extra discs *off the top of my head, i can't remember the exact numbers, i'd have to check*

I can understand the reason for purchasing the chartbuster trademark in order to keep it from becoming 'freeware' but to force people who have already paid for their soundchoice certication to pony up again is too much, in my opinion ESPECiALLY since all PEP owns is the trademark, and had no involvement AT ALL in the creation of the actual tracks.

I have already paid for my SC certification, which still hasn't taken place by the way, i paid for my GEM series (still not listed on website for that) and i even managed to pay towards the original advance program.

I feel like I have paid enough.. ESPECIALLY when you take into consideration how bad the current exchange rate is for the canadian dollar. I am paying anywhere from 1.3 to 1.5 times the listed US prices on any fees incurred by PEP

-James

I can confirm that there are bogus GEM tracks on iRC sites. They even have the BLUE label graphics files. however, they have 128k music files.

Seems like a lot of trouble to go to matching up GEM blue label files with lower quality audio files but someone did it.

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Some people don't care about 320 bit rates versus 128 bit rates. They'd rather conserve hard drive space since the average person in a karaoke bar couldn't tell the difference on their best day. People used 128 rips for years and they were perfectly satisfied with the quality of the sound. Now, all of a sudden, 128 rips aren't good enough for some people. What good is using 320 rips with VocoPro microphones compared TO USING 128 RIPS AND USING TRULY PRO AUDIO EQUIPMENT.

So...not GEM tracks at all. Imitation GEM tracks. I agree...why bother.



Nobody EVER said they were "IMPOSSIBLE TO PIRATE". (Especially in obnoxious all-caps). What was SAID is that it would be foolish to do so. You think that SC just made these discs in their basement? If someone let them loose, combined with the legal documents they signed, their asses are grass.



Wow, so much BS in one paragraph. Where to start?

LOL. Hard disk space? Is this 2002? You can buy a 6TB hard drive for $250. Hard drive space is the cheapest its ever been. That's a serious BS argument there.


The only person who would say that with a straight face is the thief stealing it for free. Because if that same thief had a choice between stealing 128 and 320, which do you think he would prefer? I think its obvious. Suddenly "Disk Space" wouldn't be as important.

A logical fallacy. People also used Cassettes for years and were happy with the sound. That doesnt mean they didn't suck a$$ and are antiquated technology. Anyone using 128 files today thinking "nobody notices" is an idiot. People notice.

Time to catch up with the times Sparky. 128 hasn't been considered acceptable for many, many years. This isnt "All of a sudden" by any stretch of the imagination.

But hey. Welcome to the forum.

The only advantage/reason i could see for doing it is so that you would have a large portion of the soundchoice library available with 100% clean/pristine graphics. No more unreadable files with all the chicken scratch.


-James

Bwahahaha!

I just about spewed on my monitor reading this pompous, arrogant and presumptuous demand! Gee whiz, you mean I can "register" for free? I'm still laughing...

I don't have to do anything for you. Nothing. Zip. Zilch. I'm under no obligation to give you diddly-squat or lift a finger. Especially just because you "want to know." You can "ask" all you want.... and in the interest of fair play, it will cost you nothing to ask.

I see that Chris Avis has verified that the gem tracks are in fact, on the IRC pirate channels. Of course he'll claim they're bogus because of the bitrate because he -- as well as bazza and sandman -- think that there is some sort of detectable difference in bitrate in a noisy club or that someone would actually take the time and trouble to "match up" the blue logo files with 128 audio for 6,000 files. A preposterous assumption to say the least.

But they need that kind of argument to convince themselves that what they see is not true...

It looks like your own licensees have stopped supporting you and are rebelling against you.
Bwahahahahaha!

Have a holly-jolly holiday, a Merry Christmas and keep on smilin'! (I am)

First off, how can you tell that they're bogus? And, assuming they are not bogus, why do they even bother then? All of the original SC song tracks are already out there (we've had this argument before)... but here's the twist, you're now saying that the GEM tracks are out there too (I purposely left out the word bogus), but at the same bit rate as the others.

IF they are not bogus GEM tracks, then all I have to say about that is, so much for your argument about comparing a regular DVD movie to a Blue-Ray version.

Bend ALL THEY WAY over.....

Exactly. Well said.

Remember that by using their logic, even a disc ripped audio to a 44100 .WAV file -- loss less -- is technically a "bogus track" too even though it is a higher bitrate. All the arguments about bitrate are simply garbage.

These tracks are made to have on a computer, correct? Since MOST computers are exposed to the internet at some point, it is not beyond reason that someone's GEM-bearing computer may have been hacked. As you all know, all it takes is ONE person to do it for the data to be released into the wild...

I don't believe that anyone had to match up any files to downsize the 320 GEM tracks to 128 GEM Tracks. MP3GToolz does all of the work for you automatically. Just set it and forget it. Some KJs like to run their shows from a single laptop without having to use an external hard drive....for the same reason that some KJs don't like to use a disc player in their system. It's just one less piece of equipment that can fail during a show. That being said, the average laptop hard drive is only 500GB to 1TB so bit rate can come in to play for some KJs and they can fit many more files on their internal hard drive if the files are ripped at 128 as opposed to 320. I've never run into a single karaoke enthusiast who avoided a particular karaoke show because of the tracks being ripped at 128 instead of 320. The average karaoke singer couldn't tell the difference between Sweet Georgia Brown and Sound Choice. If they have a Sweet Georgia Brown disc at home; then they want to sing the SGB version at a show. Familiarity is much more important to that person than the bit rate of the music. People don't make their karaoke choices by whatever bit rate the KJ has their files stored at. They make those choices based on the fun atmosphere of a particular show. The KJs that have to brag about their bit rate as a selling point usually have nothing else to base their reputation on so they try to make it seem like the bit rate is more important than it really is.

KC makes a valid argument. i kept my rips at WAV 44.1 but recently converted to 320k to put them all on internal HD and use MP3 gain. nobody noticed anything. i bought from may companies over the years SF, ZM, SBI etc and some were at 128 an not one person mentioned anything. i agree that the only ones who notice are the hosts themselves.

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