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 Post subject: Re: Singer Apologies
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:28 pm 
Karaoke is about singers.   That is how it started and that is how it should remain.


Now tell me how running a show totally for the singers is an inflated ego, pompous or belittling.      I take care of and respect my singers.   I do not insult them with fillers and dance music and games that take up precious singing time.    These people come out and support you with their hard earned money....WHY????      I promote quality karaoke.      Not Djing and game shows.    

Yes I'm self obsessed with promoting karaoke as a stand alone form of entertainment       I'm self obsessed with providing the singers quality sound.    I'm self obsessed with not wasting their singing time with "in between garbage."      If I took your place you would be out of a job.    Everyone around here knows you don't want me to fill in for you.   Once the owners see and hear real karaoke it's all over.  

If anything should be banned it's KJs that think karaoke is just a way to make some money and do not treat it and the singers with the respect that they deserve.


100% PURE KARAOKE RULES.    Everthing else sucks.


If the singers all would band together and only support KJs that truly support them, a lot of "DJ-o-k-e/KJs" would be out of business.  


KJs, karaoke only

DJs, DJ only

DJ-o-k-e-r-s waste precious singing time.


[highlight=crimson]WAKE UP SINGERS, IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU[/highlight]   ONLY SUPPORT PURE KARAOKE SHOWS      

If you don't it may not be around long.    

Others are trying to kill it for you.    

Don't help them kill your fun.

A karaoke night should always be all karaoke.      

DJs have their own night.

Bands have their own night.

Karaoke deserves it's own night.     RIGHT?????   WHY NOT??????


If this doesn't make sense or matter to you, it should.


See the unprofessional jerk KJs making fun????

You want to support them, why????


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:38 pm 
That's a very successful Professional Karaoke A**hole, (that refuses to waste valuable singing time without nonsense) to you.   Don't forget it. :O


When you get to my success level, I'll still be ahead of you. :whistle:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:49 pm 
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And I thought this thread was going to be about singers stinking it up so bad, and knowing it, that they apologized to the listeners.

I've done it at least twice that I can think of.

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 Post subject: Re: Singer Apologies
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:52 pm 
No, it's about KJs that think they should waste singing time and how much it benefits the singers.  LMAO


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yet once again everybody is responding to a yipping cur...

of course, with the whole "Bigdog appreciation society" thread, it refueled our shaking, pompus fleabag... and made him think that others had his back and seriously took someone who claims to be a professional yet refuses to divulge their location AS a professional.

When are you guys going to learn?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:02 pm 
Everyone always know where you can get screwed..... :O  :yes:  

It's harder to find places you won't..... :worship:  :whistle:


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dbk1009 @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:22 pm wrote:
I fully expect to see PittsburgPat chime in here at any moment.



chime  LOL

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:18 pm 
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That's a very successful Professional Karaoke A**hole, (that refuses to waste valuable singing time without nonsense) to you.   Don't forget it.


Oh....pardon me your highness.... :sleep:  :sleep:  :sleep:

Your crassness of dialogue attempt is to die for...... LMAO

Are you some kind of spambot that was somehow programmed to cater to the professional kj in the form of subliminal messages that not only demand their attention, but also makes them see red?

I get it. I'm not a kj. Don't you have anything else to talk about? Like.....where a few good singers can find karaoke heaven?

You need to find a bar owner's site to dump all of this rhetoric on. If you think kjs here will all conform to your system not knowing who the hell or what the hell you are, or if what you say is gospel, you must be as naive as you think the kjs here are.
I don't hear anyone else at this site making boastful claims of climactic success.

I know...because you're the only successful kj on earth....right?

Hmmmm...I pretty much sound like an a$$h*le tonight too, so, no reward for your efforts BD. :wink:  LOL  :wave:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:25 pm 
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Jian @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:27 pm wrote:
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Have a nice day, but PLEASE, have it somewhere else.


And so he just move country... to Hong Kong LOL


Hong Kong....Is that anywhere near Bangkok?????
Ohhhh I kill myself  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO

And where's the girls!!!!!

Flirting time need in this inanae thread!!!!


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Jian @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:27 pm wrote:
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Have a nice day, but PLEASE, have it somewhere else.


And so he just move country... to Hong Kong LOL


Hong Kong....Is that anywhere near Bangkok?????
Ohhhh I kill myself  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO

And where's the girls!!!!!

Flirting time need in this inanae thread!!!!




He is getting nearer to me. In a few more post he will be giging next door to me. LMAO

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:42 pm 
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Bigdog @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:02 pm wrote:
Everyone always know where you can get screwed.....


I prefer to purchase attachment hardware at my local hardware store, rather than the mega mart "home improvement" center.  I find that you get much better service when shopping at a "Mom & Pop" stores.  And if the "Mom & Pop" soter dosen't have what you need, they will of course order it, and have it for you within couple days.   Ever try to got a Home Depot/Lowes mega store to order one of the little thingys that go on the end of one of thoes square doo-dads.

Now on to types of screws....

Wood screws, machine screws, sheetmetal screws, self-drilling/tapping screws, and set screws.  They come wiht a variety of heads, including pan, button, round, truss, flat, & oval.  Screws also come in varying lengths, thicknesses, and tensile strenghts.  

Remember, if you can find it at the mega-home improvement store, try your local Mom & Pop store.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:22 pm 
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Karaoke is about singers.   That is how it started and that is how it should remain.


That part, I can agree with, but let’s get to the problems at hand.

Firstly, PLEASE don’t ask me, and the rest of this fine community, to believe that your primary purpose for starting this thread was anything other than to rile people up.  Sadly, it worked.

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Now tell me how running a show totally for the singers is an inflated ego, pompous or belittling.


It isn't... However, presenting yourself on this forum as if you are some kind of karaoke god, and insisting that the way you run your shows is the only way, comes across exactly as inflated and pompous on your part, and belittling, because you make it clear that you think anyone who does things differently than you is a "hack".  Furthermore, you appear to believe that you have to tell and re-tell your story and methods DOZENS of times.  How many times are you going to tell us how great you are and how badly the rest of us must suck because we aren't bigdog?  Well, I, for one, am sick and freaking tired of it, and I haven’t even been here a year, yet.  I can only imagine how some of the people that have been here much longer feel about your self-centered tirades.

Another thing that many of us find quite annoying is your inconsistency.  In one thread you talk about how you make sure your shows are entertaining for the non-singers, and in another you talk about how only the singers should be catered to. Rhetorical questions to follow: Which is it? How can you cater solely to the singers and yet offer non-singers what they want, too?  Don’t bother trying to explain.  We are tired of hearing you explain, so don’t bother trying.

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Yes I'm self obsessed...blah, blah, blah…If I took your place you would be out of a job.    Everyone around here knows you don't want me to fill in for you.   Once the owners see and hear real karaoke it's all over.


ROFL!! I should have written self-absorbed. That would have more accurately conveyed the meaning I was looking for.   Refer to the above paragraph about how you go on and on and on and on about yourself.  Narcissism does not become you.

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KJs, karaoke only

DJs, DJ only

DJ-o-k-e-r-s waste precious singing time.


OK, so you are a good KJ (or so you tell is), but many of us take measures to be entertainers and offer an extra level of service that your rigid ways simply would not.  I am sure you run a very efficient rotation—as do many of us, here—but you are apparently inflexible.  

Allow me to present you a scenario I have seen numerous times as a KJ as well as a singer in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. (to clarify, this is something that I have seen literally hundreds of times throughout the years): Several SINGERS ask the KJ to play a few dance songs, so they can shake their things on the dance floor—postponing the playing of the dance set, so that a long rotation can be finished, irritates the impatient singers, who also want to dance.  What do YOU do in a situation like that?  If you tell them “no,” then you are pissing off your singers.  If you tell them “yes,” then you aren’t being true to the bigdog way.  This is not an isolated scenario.  Maybe it is different in your market area?  

Fill music?  I have heard lots of complaints over the years from SINGERS about my competitors not using fill music, and that they like my shows better because I DO play it.  Hmmm… If I have singers (who became regulars at my shows) are complaining about no fill music, then why would I go the bigdog way?  Why would I apologize for playing fill music, when clearly, it is something that my crowd of singers appreciates?  Is bigdog wrong once again?  Apparently.

Games? Sorry, no experience, there.

I will grant you that playing more than a few dance songs in a dance set, or playing a full song between each karaoke singer is irritating, to say the least.  That said, though, your inflexible methods would find you replaced, or not even hired in the first place, in many places I have worked—including places that I worked for years at a time.

Enough of all of that, as I fear that it is falling on deaf ears, anyhow. (I thought dogs were supposed to have better hearing than that..**shrugs**)

The difference between you and the majority of the people in this forum is that most of us realize that there is very often more than one right answer, or more than one GOOD solution to a problem.  In that spirit, I offer some solutions to the personality conflict problems that only seem to crop up in your threads and the ones you post to.

One solution that bigdog can implement:  Quit prattling on and on about how much better you are than everyone else, and you won’t feel attacked when others start disagreeing with you—and we will.  

A solution that other posters can implement:  Ignore the pompous puppy and don’t allow him to bait you into heated repetitions of his irritating drivel.

A solution that the moderators can implement: Ban the offending poster.

Another solution bigdog can implement: Accept my original well-wishing, and have a nice day, but PLEASE do it elsewhere.


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Meep70 @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:22 pm wrote:
A solution that other posters can implement:  Ignore the pompous puppy and don’t allow him to bait you into heated repetitions of his irritating drivel.


I keep trying eith inane chatter, posts about screws, weather, and trying to get some flirting going on in here, but no one is getting the hint.

NOW: Back to our regularly scheduled program.


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 Post subject: Re: Singer Apologies
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SwingcatKurt @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:08 pm wrote:
"They will loose because bar owners will be able to have systems that can be run by employee's who will be paid little more than minimum wage!!!"

Get used to it! :( Because its already happening.


aaaah SwingcatKurt....I was just kidding, LOL  but I really do hate it for you guys that are trying to make a living as KJ's after seeing that link I posted about that system designed to eliminate KJ's.....And yes I have already seen it happening here in my area where bar owners are buying there own systems and then paying a regular low wage employee to run the karaoke show.

My post was just to add to some of the funny stuff here on this thread, but sadly it is happening in some area's.  I will always go to the better karaoke places, but they are getting harder to find due to this reality we are seeing.  

It's as though they are aiming karaoke towards home user's and Bar owner's, and looks as though they are trying to eliminate the KJ's in order to make more money for the Bar owner's by not having to pay for KJ service's, and to make more money for themselves by trying to eliminate the one's who they think are responsible for the bootlegging & Piracy. Evidently they are putting the blame on the KJ's and using them as Scape Goats!!!  :(


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twansenne @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:35 pm wrote:
and back to that smoking thing, since that is not what this thread is about.  

Has anyone heard of a business getting busted for allowing smoking?

What are the penatiles for not complying to smoking bans in your locale?

What if there is a person, who just refuses to put out his/her smoke?  
What can you do?  
Call the cops?  
Can you really be aressted for smoking?



Come on people, more inane chatter!!!!!
Perhaps some of the women could come in and start flirting!! :dancin:  :dancin:


Anthony you wouldn't be trying to get us in trouble would you???  you know I can't control myself when them women start that stuff!!!  LMAO


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dbk1009 @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:22 pm wrote:
I will apologize....

for getting drawn into BD's BS yet again. I would like to know where he plays, because obvoiusly the laws of physics do not apply there as welll as the laws of sound.....

Dreamer- you only seem to pop up when BD backs himself into a corner. I can only assume you enjoy stirring the pot as well, or are an alter ego. I fully expect to see PittsburgPat chime in here at any moment.

I welcome any and all of you to attend one of my shows and see how much of a HACK I am. Ericlater has been. I have been to Lito's show. Some of the people who found singers showcase did so through a link to here on my site.

SO, to end this foolishness, BD- enjoy your ever dwindling, ever chenging line up of idiotic bar owners and superior singers without a stage. From now on you are as dead to me as you think karaoke is because of people like me.


Nah....I just wanted to add to some of the insanity here.  LMAO


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Jian @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:27 pm wrote:
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And so he just move country... to Hong Kong LOL



Big dog does move a lot!!! I wonder why????  LMAO


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Bigdog @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:28 pm wrote:
Karaoke is about singers.   That is how it started and that is how it should remain.


Now tell me how running a show totally for the singers is an inflated ego, pompous or belittling.      I take care of and respect my singers.   I do not insult them with fillers and dance music and games that take up precious singing time.    These people come out and support you with their hard earned money....WHY????      I promote quality karaoke.      Not Djing and game shows.    

Yes I'm self obsessed with promoting karaoke as a stand alone form of entertainment       I'm self obsessed with providing the singers quality sound.    I'm self obsessed with not wasting their singing time with "in between garbage."      If I took your place you would be out of a job.    Everyone around here knows you don't want me to fill in for you.   Once the owners see and hear real karaoke it's all over.  

If anything should be banned it's KJs that think karaoke is just a way to make some money and do not treat it and the singers with the respect that they deserve.


100% PURE KARAOKE RULES.    Everthing else sucks.


If the singers all would band together and only support KJs that truly support them, a lot of "DJ-o-k-e/KJs" would be out of business.  


KJs, karaoke only

DJs, DJ only

DJ-o-k-e-r-s waste precious singing time.


[highlight=crimson]WAKE UP SINGERS, IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU[/highlight]   ONLY SUPPORT PURE KARAOKE SHOWS      

If you don't it may not be around long.    

Others are trying to kill it for you.    

Don't help them kill your fun.

A karaoke night should always be all karaoke.      

DJs have their own night.

Bands have their own night.

Karaoke deserves it's own night.     RIGHT?????   WHY NOT??????


If this doesn't make sense or matter to you, it should.


See the unprofessional jerk KJs making fun????

You want to support them, why????



yet again I agree with Big dog on the above about karaoke being for the singers...etc  Why??? Because the ones he calls hacks moved into our area and took over with cheaper prices for there service..."under cutting the Great KJ's we had here in this area" and the so called hacks actually make me sick the way they run there shows with crap systems, unfair rotation....blah blah blah...all the crap Big dog talks about over and over and over!!! ....yes it has happened here where I live and it is killing karaoke and so yes.....I feel the same way about this as Big dog.

But then who am I to complain....I'm just the consumer who once spent a lot of time and money going to karaoke bars!!!! Who now no longer does because of this repeated over and over subject that Big dog keeps trying to tell everyone.

I will save my money and buy my own karaoke and enjoy it here at home.  :)


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Bigdog @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:28 pm wrote:
Karaoke is about singers.   That is how it started and that is how it should remain.


Actually, karaoke started out about singING not singERS--a subtle but important difference.

And Tom, I though the same thing when I saw this thread, but when I saw who initiated it I approached with a grain of salt.

I hate hacks as bad as anyone. But I have been to excellent karaoke shows that come in as many flavors as bad ones.

Oh...finally...a confession...I have friends who do not sing karaoke. I have been to karaoke bars with them where I sang and they did not. Shoot me.

Sorry, Anthony, no flirting here. If I take off my virtual clothes I might get virtual fleas in this thread.

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In another attempt to apply some sanity and real business experience to this nonsense here it is what the situation is.. For about 3 years we owned a small liquor store in a small town..  Budwieser has a brewery about 5 mi from the farm.. The distributers all gave discounts to quantity buyers. Hence discount liquors could sell for less than we could buy wholesale.. Small bars and we could not buy from discount and resell or we would be closed in a minute.. 90% of the bars in this country are slowly being closed by over regulation,, taxes dui laws and people staying home The number of "garage" bars are multiplying at an alarming rate..

The days of average bars paying a few hundred dollars for entertainment is all but over

It has nothing to do with hackers The bars cant afford it Period.......You people need to realize what the real factors are and start coming up with viable solutions instead of whining about what Joe Blow is doing...

Ok back to the real world "Hello Walls!"

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