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My friend who is a musician also had DX7 for a while and they did sound pretty good. They had great horn sound but their piano sound was only average. He also used Cubase in the past. That's not what I am talking about here. MIDI Karaoke files in general are crappy because they use the instrument from a computer or the karaoke players. I would like you to show me an average karaoke singer or even a KJ who would lug a DX7 to a gig. Those things may sound good but they weigh a ton.

No matter what you do to a MIDI file, unless you bring the source of music that sounds good, it does no good to a karaoke player. I do assume that our discussion here is about karaoake singers/KJ not a musician who will lug a 150lb DX7 around each gig.

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Again, no machine can reproduce the EXPRESSION that a human player can get out of a live instrument.

And you HAVE to admit that when you go back and listen to your favorite 80s music today that most of it does sound pretty cheesy. However, without the experimentation with electronic alternatives in music in the 80s, we wouldn't have the techno, rap, dance, trance, etc. music of today. On second thought, screw 80s music, it may have single handedly ruined Rock and Roll!!

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KJ, FL

My Korg is 1U half rackmount. Weight about 1k.

I'm not learning anything here except that a couple of you
have inadequate knowledge, and will still make sweeping
statements based on that.

Think I will try another forum.

My imessurable thanks to exweedfarmer
who has seriously made my life so much easier.
Perry... make some money on it.
Bye guys.

Sorry you ddn't learn anything Jerry.  But the fact remains, that MIDI is not as good as the real thing, and is not practical for Karaoke as an alternative to CDGs.

Yes, many bands did use synthesizers in the 80's, but thoes were original songs, they were not trying to reproduce existing songs.

Midi is the real thing. It is samples of the real instrument.

Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum.

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Sing with a Beyer

Hey, how many posts do I need to enter the lounge

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[quote="karaokemaker @ Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:18 pm]
Midi is the real thing. It is samples of the real instrument.

Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum.[/quote]
Welcome to the forum!  Yes.

Midi is the real thing. It is samples of the real instrument?  No....

Hey dude, Think your post flunked

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Nope, MIDI is nothing more than just a notation of which note, for how long and which instrument. It's not an instrument file, it's just a notation file.

You need some kind of machine that can reproduce the sound of an instrument to make the music happen. That's why PC MIDI sound suck. Their implementation of instrument is really bad at best. If you get a professional equipment, it may sound better but it's a digital reproduction of an real instrument.

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Eben. You have got to be the biggest moron I have ever come accross.
I freelance working for many companys including THM, Zoom and others I am not allowed to mention.
Midi is a protocol.
The sounds are the best samplings of the best  frigin instruments.

Is this forum to be taken seriously or what.

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Now, I have been nice to you and try to explain to you what the generality of MIDI file in karaoke is. You are the one who came to a karaoke forum, ask a question regarding karaoke, didn't like the answer and now you are saying that we are making general sweeping statement based on inadequate knowledge? Let me ask you something. How long have you been singing karaoke? How long have you been hosting karaoke? How long have you shopped for equipment specifically for karaoke and did years of research in to the equipment needed for karaoke? 10 years? 5 years? 5 day? Are you the expert in the area where you dismiss people who have been doing this for years just because you disagree and call them to have inadequate knowledge? Who the hell do you think you are?



All I can say is good riddance. Go somewhere else and discuss karaoke. What we talk about here is karaoke, not just some general musical equipment. Take your Korg and don't let the door hit your (@$%&#!) on the way out.

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wow rarely have I seen the jerkometer leap so high so quickly on a newbie

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Before you call someone a moron, do your research. Click here and see what wiki says about what MIDI is.

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Eben , Didnt understand your last Post. Seemed nasty though.
Ignorance is bliss.

Just google midi you moron.
Its that simple. Take it you can do simple.???

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the only nasty post is yours sunshine, pull your head in and behave

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karaokemaker:  Please forgive us, we are old and underinformed.  I who grew up in the days of the moog and used midi extensively there after in stage work, also thought it was pure synth.  In fact, I'm pretty sure it was at one time.  But things have apparently changed.  I would be very interested to know about this change if you would care to expand on the subject.  I might even be tempted to buy a new sound module if it really is sampled.

Please STOP calling people name, This FORUM is not the place for this kind of post.

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Apparently, you don't want to click and read what Wiki says about MIDI, so here is the quote. Please read the last paragraph very carefully.

"All official MIDI standards are jointly developed and published by the MIDI Manufacturers Association (MMA) in Los Angeles, California, USA (http://www.midi.org), and for Japan, the MIDI Committee of the Association of Musical Electronic Industry (AMEI) in Tokyo (http://www.amei.or.jp). The primary reference for MIDI is The Complete MIDI 1.0 Detailed Specification, document version 96.1, available only directly from MMA in English, or from AMEI in Japanese.
The MIDI Show Control (MSC) protocol (in the Real Time System Exclusive subset) is an industry standard ratified by the MIDI Manufacturers Association in 1991 which allows all types of media control devices to talk with each other and with computers to perform show control functions in live and canned entertainment applications. Just like musical MIDI (above), MSC does not transmit the actual show media — it simply transmits digital data providing information such as the type, timing and numbering of technical cues called during a multimedia performance.
Almost all music recordings today utilize MIDI as a key enabling technology for recording music. In addition, MIDI is also used to control hardware including recording devices as well as live performance equipment such as stage lights and effects pedals.
MIDI allows computers, synthesizers, MIDI controllers, sound cards, samplers and drum machines to control one another, and to exchange system data. Though modern computer sound cards are MIDI-compatible and capable of creating realistic instrument sounds, the fact that sound cards' MIDI synthesizers have historically produced sounds of dubious quality has tarnished the image of a computer as a MIDI instrument. In fact, the MIDI specification itself has nothing to do with the quality of sound produced - this varies depending on the quality of sound card and/or samples used.
MIDI is almost directly responsible for bringing an end to the "wall of synthesizers" phenomenon in 1970s-80s rock music concerts, when keyboard instrument performers were sometimes hidden behind banks of various instruments. Following the advent of MIDI, many synthesizers were released in rack-mount versions, enabling performers to control multiple instruments from a single keyboard. Another important effect of MIDI has been the development of hardware and computer-based sequencers, which can be used to record, edit and play back performances.
Synchronization of MIDI sequences is made possible by the use of MIDI timecode, an implementation of the SMPTE time code standard using MIDI messages, and MIDI timecode has become the standard for digital music synchronization.
A number of music file formats have been based on the MIDI bytestream. These formats are very compact; a file as small as 10 KB can produce a full minute of music. This is advantageous for applications such as mobile phone ringtones, and some video games. The term "MIDI sound" is often used erroneously to refer to soundtracks based on low-quality samples. This is probably because of the General MIDI synthesizing software included with personal computers - in many cases, the instruments represented by General MIDI bear little resemblance to the real thing."

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JERKOMETER  LMAO

Bout peed my pants on that one