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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:30 pm 
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Yeah it does leave a little risidual lysol smell but the customer does not seem to mind and it does not seem to have any effect on the microphones themselves. I've been doing this for several years now and it seems to work just fine.

I suppose alchohol wipes would work just as well but I use the wipes all the time at work and so I purchase them in bulk from Costco so its one less stop at the store.

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Flipper @ Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:30 pm wrote:
Yeah it does leave a little risidual lysol smell but the customer does not seem to mind


Ya haven't meet might wife, she has a nose like a blood hound.  Any perfume type smells can throw here into a sneezing fit.


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 Post subject: Re: Germs
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:19 pm 
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Oh I totally understand what you mean!  I cant walk through the purfume or colonge isle in the deparment store....I react quite negatively to it.

What I meant was that I have had no complaints to date. When I do I will consider switching to plain alchohol wipes.

I never really thought about reactions to the scent, I was focusing on the germs...thanks for bringing that up!

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 Post subject: Re: Germs
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:03 pm 
[quote="twansenne @ Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:35 pm"]So people actualy use the foam windscreens at shows?  EWE GROSS!!!!

Four different colors, so I know exactly what mic I'm messin' with. Might look silly to a microphone gourmet, or a "morris the cat"....but the vast majority of people don't care........6 hours.....never damp....constantly drying almost instantaneously.....germs go into the holes, and don't wait on he hard mic surface to jump aboard the next set of lips....wash out at the end of the night with some antibiotic soapy dopey.....drys real fast. I've also noticed that the mic suckers don't like the feel of the foam.....yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!!!!!!!!!...you've temporarily broken a nasty habit....and last but not least....mics seem to always hit head first.....this actually offers some impact protection.......I've seen many lips, that germs certainly haven't discouraged me from chewing on...... LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO


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Johnny Echo @ Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:03 pm wrote:
Four different colors, so I know exactly what mic I'm messin' with. Might look silly to a microphone gourmet, or a "morris the cat"....but the vast majority of people don't care........6 hours.....never damp....constantly drying almost


Still find it REALY gross IMHO.  I uses COLORED mic cords to make sure I know which mic I am messing with.  If I was using cordless mics, I would uses some colored vinyl tape to distinguish the mics.


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 Post subject: Re: Germs
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:42 pm 
Unfortunately, Twansenne, rubbing alcohol has no disinfectant or antispetic quality to it.  That's why it's called rubbing alcohol.  What Jian has presented is most correct, but cleansing the equipment in the fashion Lonman recommends is a good idea.  

Personally, because of the things Lonman has suggested, I would consider buying the foam wind screens and tossing them when they could no longer be cleaned properly.  I'd rather clean the screen than the mic itself (if that can be avoided)


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But the foam cover windscreens can't even be wiped down during the night, they just collect more & more moisture (spit) throughout the evening.  At least a Lysol wipe can do a minimal job throughout a show on a mesh screen.

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 Post subject: Re: Germs
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:35 pm 
Lonman, with no idea of the type of "build-up" that can occur, I was suggesting that, if necessary, I would be willing to go through 2-3 screens each show.  Would that be sensible?


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ericlater @ Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:35 pm wrote:
Lonman, with no idea of the type of "build-up" that can occur, I was suggesting that, if necessary, I would be willing to go through 2-3 screens each show.  Would that be sensible?


That's up to you, but when would you deem it necessary to replace, it only takes 1 singers to literally SOAK one of them things.  Not to mention the cost.  Most places sell 1 for around $2-5 each.  Sometimes you can find them in packs for about 10-15 per pack for anywhere from 5-7 in a pack.  This will add up extra expenses for something that you are going to  replacing sometimes several per night.

Personally if I go to a show that uses them, if the host doesn't let me remove it from the mic, I don't sing.  These are worse than just a plain mics own mesh screen.  The foam screens are designed for wind resistance when outside, not for germ protection.

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ericlater @ Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:42 pm wrote:
Unfortunately, Twansenne, rubbing alcohol has no disinfectant or antispetic quality to it.  That's why it's called rubbing alcohol.  What Jian has presented is most correct, but cleansing the equipment in the fashion Lonman recommends is a good idea.


Perhaps it is time to go back to medical school.

Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol  IS an antiseptic, and can be use as a disinfectant.

But if it is not, I wonder why I got wiped with it on my arm each time I got a allergy shot when I was a kid.


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ericlater @ Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:42 pm wrote:
Unfortunately, Twansenne, rubbing alcohol has no disinfectant or antispetic quality to it.  That's why it's called rubbing alcohol.  


Uses for rubbing alcohol.

Uses: Applied externally as a cooling, soothing application for bedridden patients and athletes. It is also widely used for cleansing the surgeon's hands and instruments and for disinfection of the skin prior to penetration of the skin by a hypodermic needle. As an antiseptic it is good against vegetative bacteria and fair against fungi and viruses. It is ineffective against spores. It is widely believed that 70% ethanol provides the greatest reduction in bacterial count; however, this is in error. Other concentrations may be more effective, but their rate of kill is slower. In order to reduce the skin bacterial count to 5% of normal, 70% ethanol must be left on the skin for at least 2 min. Rubbing alcohol is also a feeble anesthetic and a mild counterirritant. It is not potable (= not drinkable) (see Abuse).

I would still go with Lysol wipes personally.

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Lonman @ Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:08 pm wrote:
I would still go with Lysol wipes personally.


I'll stick with the rubbing alchol.  NO scent so it won't bother my wife's bloodhound nose.


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 Post subject: Re: Germs
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:33 pm 
I can't believe I'm saying this....Alcohol is a germ killer.   What does the doctor use on your arm before a shot?   Lysol?   LMAO  

The windscreens offer some protection if some yahoo drops the microphone.   But it also prevents the unprofessional singers sounds of the "Ps" popping.   I hate that sound.   Professional singers know the proper technique to keep the "B's & P's" from popping.   That's why you see the pros sing without them.    The average karaoke singer doesn't have a clue.

I use colored ones that can be seen all they way across the dark bar.    They can be washed as often as you want.      I always sing with it on.     It cuts down on the harsh sound.


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Bigdog @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:33 pm wrote:
But it also prevents the unprofessional singers sounds of the "Ps" popping.   I hate that sound.   Professional singers know the proper technique to keep the "B's & P's" from popping.  


The foam covers are windscreens are designed for outside use to prevent wind noise, but it can dull up the sound to prevent the pops & ess sounds as well - people somewhere along the line believed they help with the reduction of germs, which is false, it actually accumulates more.  Most good mics have a foam cover on the inside of the mic ball which is why you don't see pro's using the external cover type indoors, you do on occasion see them being used in outdoor shows.

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With all this talk about germs lately I did something different when cleaning mine.

Please don't laugh - after I did my normal cleaning I dipped them in scope, squeezed them out, and then rinsed them with water. I'm hoping this was an okay thing to do. I'm sure you guys will let me know if I did a no no.
Anyway, it left them smelling fresh. I even had someone comment about how nice and clean they smelled. hee hee

Scope it prevents singer plaque build up - 9 out of 10 singing dentists agree  LMAO

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 Post subject: Re: Germs
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:57 am 
Do what they do in the barber shop.  They have the disinfectant jar sitting there.  Everytime you are done using a comb you put it in the jar.   We could have mouthwash dip jars.      Instead of tip jars.

I have a dentist friend, maybe we could have checkups and oral hygene between singers instead of filler music. LMAO


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:53 am 
That alchohol doesn't do a very good job of killing germs, just like a wind screen dosn't prevent pops very well, wish they did. The sure microphones that many of you use, actually have a built in pop filter. Screens will keep the mic sucker from making out with the mic...they don't like the feel...lol....the only thing negative about a wind screen, is it looks silly. Time and time again, experts say germs are passed on from hand to hand, or hand to object to hand......keep your hands away from your eyes and nose, especially when touching things handled by others........


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Johnny Echo @ Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:53 am wrote:
That alchohol doesn't do a very good job of killing germs, just like a wind screen dosn't prevent pops very well, wish they did. The sure microphones that many of you use, actually have a built in pop filter. Screens will keep the mic sucker from making out with the mic...they don't like the feel...lol....the only thing negative about a wind screen, is it looks silly. Time and time again, experts say germs are passed on from hand to hand, or hand to object to hand......keep your hands away from your eyes and nose, especially when touching things handled by others........


even with the built in pop filter my shure needed all the help it could get from the wind sock on tuesday. The wind was so gusty that the mic was roaring. Put the sock on and it quietened right down. The vehicle launch/fashion parade in the garden went down a treat and the commentary was popless

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 Post subject: Re: Germs
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:23 am 
Antibacterial disposable cloths do the trick and are safe to use on microphones.  The surface area of any object is usually the target and the inner recesses of the mic usually have not been exposed.


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