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You saw the pics of our 2 didnt ya?

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Keith02..... LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  LMAO  he he ho ho ha ha  ireallyam rolling around on the floor right now.....


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I seem to remember back in the '70s we were just about out of oil.  We're not.  The ozone layer will be destroyed (it's coming back with a vengence), oh and of course global warming (people seem to forget that a volcano spews more carbon into the air than man ever could), yet the Earth is more than capable cleaning itself.  Oh and we can't forget about the SARS, mad cow, and avian bird epidemics (oh wait those didn't happen either.  Chicken Little is alive and well.

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well it's good to know sombody's got it all figured out. I feel so safe now!  :drunk:


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Can you imagine if New York didn't have public transportation..Heck just the cost of parking you r car is enough to make you get rid of it and ride the bus and subway.  I have a friend who lives in manhatten, it cost her 700.00 a month just for a parking space....That's more than my two car payments and insurance for a month....jeez..

I wish the DFW are had better public transportation..But it doesn't.  If you live in the suburbs your not getting anywhere without a car....  I often wonder how people that are at or below the poverty level manage to have a car.....

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Woo hoo - cap it and string us out a few more years.

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Isis @ Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:00 pm wrote:
I often wonder how people that are at or below the poverty level manage to have a car.....
They sign the contract for the car, pay the first months insurance to get their insurance card, then the cancel the insurance and never make a payment on the car......After that they simply stay ahead of the repo guy for as long as possible.....Their next car tho, they gotta steal unless someone will cosign. LOL ......That's why you often see totaled Escalades sittin in the yard of a rundown trailer house....No insurance to fix it, and even the repo guy doesn't want it. :shock:


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Actually we got a bunch of oil here need a bunch of heaters or a great big hammer.

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Shell's method, which it calls "in situ conversion," is simplicity itself in concept but exquisitely ingenious in execution. Terry O'Connor, a vice president for external and regulatory affairs at Shell Exploration and Production, explained how it's done (and they have done it, in several test projects):

Drill shafts into the oil-bearing rock. Drop heaters down the shaft. Cook the rock until the hydrocarbons boil off, the lightest and most desirable first. Collect them.

Please note, you don't have to go looking for oil fields when you're brewing your own.

On one small test plot about 20 feet by 35 feet, on land Shell owns, they started heating the rock in early 2004. "Product" - about one-third natural gas, two-thirds light crude - began to appear in September 2004. They turned the heaters off about a month ago, after harvesting about 1,500 barrels of oil.

While we were trying to do the math, O'Connor told us the answers. Upwards of a million barrels an acre, a billion barrels a square mile. And the oil shale formation in the Green River Basin, most of which is in Colorado, covers more than a thousand square miles - the largest fossil fuel deposits in the world.


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true that, and canada has way more of that type of stuff, and if technology ever catches up to the price of extracting it, canada will outstrip the middle east in energy production by 3 or so.  Kool!


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http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2005/commentary05101904.htm


Canada baby!  Start dumping those dollars into Canadian Oil Sands Trust....its gonna blow up someday.


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Does That Mean We Can Now Get Our Troops Out Of IRAQ?

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I'm not touching that one.  :no:


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If my area wasn't afraid to have actual rapid transit, my wife and I would only need one car. As it is now we need two. When I wsa stationed in the Bay Area, I rode the Bart system everywhere. It was much cheaper than owning a car and I didn't have to worry about where to park.

I could be wrong but rapid transit seems to be the most efficient use of petroleum for most applications. :dancin:


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I wish our mass transit system was better and less expensive....but it is MORE expensive to ride the train up to NYC from Wilmingtion DE than to drive.  Way more, even with my veteren discount.  I don't get that one.  And I aint taken a bus unless I have to, which is still more expensive, I think.


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hamsamich @ Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:02 pm wrote:
I wish our mass transit system was better and less expensive....but it is MORE expensive to ride the train up to NYC from Wilmingtion DE than to drive.  Way more, even with my veteren discount.  I don't get that one.  And I aint taken a bus unless I have to, which is still more expensive, I think.
When I was a teenager in Germany I rode the trains all over Europe cheaply....Around town, me and most Germans rode mopeds and had a blast doing it.

The Germans have always been fanatical about their train system and you could tell by their extensive network and quality service. They also kept them affordable.


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I loved riding mopeds in foreign ports.  Dangerous as Hell, but man was it fun.  I could only wish our mass transit was as good as any mediocre European country's.  What can yu do?


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karyoker @ Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:15 pm wrote:
Actually we got a bunch of oil here need a bunch of heaters or a great big hammer.

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Shell's method, which it calls "in situ conversion," is simplicity itself in concept but exquisitely ingenious in execution. Terry O'Connor, a vice president for external and regulatory affairs at Shell Exploration and Production, explained how it's done (and they have done it, in several test projects):

Drill shafts into the oil-bearing rock. Drop heaters down the shaft. Cook the rock until the hydrocarbons boil off, the lightest and most desirable first. Collect them.

Please note, you don't have to go looking for oil fields when you're brewing your own.

On one small test plot about 20 feet by 35 feet, on land Shell owns, they started heating the rock in early 2004. "Product" - about one-third natural gas, two-thirds light crude - began to appear in September 2004. They turned the heaters off about a month ago, after harvesting about 1,500 barrels of oil.

While we were trying to do the math, O'Connor told us the answers. Upwards of a million barrels an acre, a billion barrels a square mile. And the oil shale formation in the Green River Basin, most of which is in Colorado, covers more than a thousand square miles - the largest fossil fuel deposits in the world.


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Yeah I was reading about that a few months ago. Actually thinking of investing in stocks related to it. Supposedly the US has more oil deposits in the form of shale oil than all the current oil reserves of the world combined.  I probably need to find that stock info and watch closely.

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planet_bill @ Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:09 pm wrote:
karyoker @ Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:15 pm wrote:
Actually we got a bunch of oil here need a bunch of heaters or a great big hammer.

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Shell's method, which it calls "in situ conversion," is simplicity itself in concept but exquisitely ingenious in execution. Terry O'Connor, a vice president for external and regulatory affairs at Shell Exploration and Production, explained how it's done (and they have done it, in several test projects):

Drill shafts into the oil-bearing rock. Drop heaters down the shaft. Cook the rock until the hydrocarbons boil off, the lightest and most desirable first. Collect them.

Please note, you don't have to go looking for oil fields when you're brewing your own.

On one small test plot about 20 feet by 35 feet, on land Shell owns, they started heating the rock in early 2004. "Product" - about one-third natural gas, two-thirds light crude - began to appear in September 2004. They turned the heaters off about a month ago, after harvesting about 1,500 barrels of oil.

While we were trying to do the math, O'Connor told us the answers. Upwards of a million barrels an acre, a billion barrels a square mile. And the oil shale formation in the Green River Basin, most of which is in Colorado, covers more than a thousand square miles - the largest fossil fuel deposits in the world.


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Yeah I was reading about that a few months ago. Actually thinking of investing in stocks related to it. Supposedly the US has more oil deposits in the form of shale oil than all the current oil reserves of the world combined.  I probably need to find that stock info and watch closely.
I'm thinking they could harvest it via geothermal heat source.


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...never had new oil preserves. Are they any good?


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