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Don, I'm listening to this guy now...

 He had quite a tough time in the earlier 90's I guess..

His voice reminds me somewhat of a mix between Robert Cray, and Michael Bloomfield... Too bad about a few of these guys that were talented such as Michael Bloomfield, and Roy Buchanon... They didn't make it....  Danny Gatton I miss (that was tragic in 1994)...  I liked "weather Report" and Billy Cobham;  Jaco Pastorious got a bit "mouthy" when he got inebriated (which was his usual state towards the end)...could hardly function I guess, and because of his slovenly bombed demeaner and sort've not liking the fact a martial artist NYC bouncer didn't know who he was.. he impulsively used his mouth as a means of playing russian roulette  :(  What a tremendous bassist....

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Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".

Yes, I have to crash too,  sunrise will be here shortly,  days almost over... Later all..

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I enjoy watching the Mandolin violin and banjo work together in bluegrass.. I've met a few talented mandolin players here at a few bluegrass festivals... I met CHarlie Kaman, (Kaman Aerospace) Ovation Guitars parent company right here in New Hartford CT, he's a picker and likes to get into his jeans, and play bluegrass.... He's a regular at a bluegrass festival they have around here once a year (this was ages ago I went however).. Bluegrass is something I know very little about... people are all friendly and enjoy themselves however, no snobs, just folks sharing a love of music...I like that !.... I've found the same in country music, really nice people..down to earth... that's what I love about some of these open festivals, even folk festivals, just mellow events....Banjo is an instrument I know absolutely NOTHING about...So I enjoy watching people that can play because it's new to me... I really enjoy all instruments yet have to admit... when the guy at the irish store next door shows up with his kilt and bagpipes, I board up the windows, throw extra locks on the doors, wrap myself in a few quilts, and hide under the bed til it's over...something's weird about those things  

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Oh, I love bluegrass festivals. They DO have a very "homey" type of feel to them, anyone can walk up, open their case, and join in the music. As a kid, we went to bluegrass festivals all the time, not so much in recent years. They have an awesome one every year in Detroit, and there was one in LiveOak, CA. that we used to go to every summer when we lived down there. Tons of musicians from all over.  My favorite thing ABOUT bluegrass.... is the instrumentation. There's just something about the sound of a fiddle, and when you toss in a well played mandolin, accoustic guitar, and banjo.... I could listen to it for hours. With or without vocals.

Banjo- is the one instrument- that I think takes an inborn skill, not just being taught. There are just, finger rolls, that you need to have the feel for. My dad has played banjo all my life, as well as fiddle & the other instruments he plays, and he plays it well..... but even he will tell you he's NOT a banjo player. I can play 3 songs, but it stopped there for me. I can rythm roll behind other players, but never would I try to take lead riffs on a banjo, huh uh. While I do finger pick alot on guitar- it's not quite the same. I never got "the feel" for the banjo.  A banjo played well can be an awesome sound..... but a banjo played by someone who just doesn't have the knack for it- can sound awful.

I think I'm forever stuck in this "I can play a little of this and a little of that" mode. Because, I can play SOMEthing on guitar, fiddle, banjo, mandolin, dobro, harmonica, and mountain dulcimer...... but I don't excel on any of them. And I never will most likely. (oh, and I play a smidge on bass....... Don was supposed to be teaching me more, but he's always in the forums, or sitting at Denny's, )

But- at bluegrass festivals, it's fun to just grab whatever, and play whatever. Nobody expects you to be pro on anything. And besides, I'd rather be the one singing anyhow.  :D

The coolest place I've ever gone to where I met musicians........ if EVER you get the chance to attend, don't pass it up........ is at Weiser, Idaho at the National Old Time Fiddlers Contest. It's not about the contest- it's about sitting out in the camps on the football field. We literally had music playing ALL night long. The entire football field and parking lot are open to tent & RV camping, and you can just walk around, and every 3-5 camp sites, there's another group set up playing.  People just carried their instruments from group to group, and there were musicians of all kinds. Mostly bluegrass & country, and you hear alot of progressive fiddling, but other stuff as well. Lots of blues too. I met people from all walks of life, all corners of the US & Canada, it was an awesome experience. It's always the 3rd week of June- and goes all week- sunday to sunday. (lots of good fishing close by too, on the Snake River.... and boating... by Hell's Canyon) Cool place to go, I begged my husband to move there, but he wouldn't.  LOL  (really, I did)

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Your Dad, Charlie, is very good!  And he has such an encyclopedic mind for old fiddle songs.  And your competitions at the Old Time Fiddler's contests seemed pretty impressive too..... second or third place if I remember right.  Does the OTF still do things in this area?  You need to track down those video tapes of when you and your Dad did those TV programs.  You went by two alias names I think.  Somebody still has those tapes and i want to see them!  Heck, we can move them over to DVD.

My dad.... has always been..... and will ALWAYS be, my favorite person to hear on fiddle. Maybe because it was what I heard growing up my whole life, but to my ears, it's just not the same when  I hear other people play the same songs dad always has. And his ability to hear a new song- and be playing lead parts on it by the time I get through a verse/chorus... is also what I love about his playing. Don't get me started, I really could brag on my dad all day.

Yes, I came in 3rd, for my age division. Though, I told ya- it was no great feat. Me and dad came in 9th for twin fiddling, which was a better win cause there were about 30 couples. (my age division for single fiddling was much smaller)  :D  And the next one, I was only 5th place. But, I never went in expecting to even do that well, being against people who have had lessons. Haven't done a competition in about 4 years though, and don't plan on any more.

The OTF... still plays very regularly around here. Over the summer, they will play alot in Aurora, at the Old Colony Museum... and they even play at the Senior Center here once a month. Actually, Don, they would welcome your bass- even though it's electric.... it would add to the sessions. Lolita, a lady who lives just out of town, plays the upright, but she's not always there to play. You could probably play the upright as well. I started to get one, but I would just rather have an electric bass guitar- not a bass fiddle. (yanno, so I can be LOUDER, hahaha) We should make some of the get togethers this spring and summer. Lots of neat people there.

The TV station still has that video, and still airs it. (channel 5) Though, we were just talking about doing a new one, that one wasn't the best quality, alot of editing. Hail, I had to play & sing AND run the cam. (which has no remote, ) I can get the tape back, but truthfully- I don't want it, haha. Still can't believe I even did that. (and yeah, haha, Chuck and Lynn, my dad's corny idea)  LOL  You know how many people I know questioned me on that? "Aren't you Lynn from Channel 5 cable?"..... "Um, yeah, but you can keep calling me Charmin". LmAo People swore it was me, but the name threw them off. I'm not doing that again, when/if I decide to do an updated video. Actually, Harley is on it a bit too, and I think this time we're gonna put the kids in some more.  You could sit in on bass too, that would be fun.  :yes:

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Very cool!  Well if you don't want that tape, then please get it for me!  I've always liked seeing local musicians of all styles on TV.  Since we've got Direct TV, there's no OCTS Canby cable channel for us, so I can't see it there!  So get that tape!  Pleeeez.....
We'll have to go to an OTF session sometime.  Hmmm.... Sure I'll play bass on some all new show.  But only if I get to learn the songs a head of time.....

Actually, I have a copy of it I think. (or dad does) Seems like we saved one, but I'm not 100% sure. And yep, unless you have the local Cable, you can't see it. Satellite does not have that channel. Dad has it, that's how I know it still airs.

Actually, I watched old home movies over the weekend- we have tons of music videos, mostly the kind where someone sticks a cam in the corner and we don't know it (blame Lonnie, he's always the cam guy, and he likes to hide it out of view, haha) So there's lots of this n' that on the video. (lots and lots of noise)  :D

I did find some that I had told ya about the other day, so I'll have to drag them out next time you come over, and we have time. (no chin singing stuff, promise) Gawd, my family is wierd, huh?  LOL

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i asked your Dad once a long time ago and he said the station still had the tape.
Your family is weird?  Hmmm.... define weird!  LOL

You have SEEN some of our home videos...... You have BEEN to my house on more than one occasion...... You've even seen us play live.

We just- like to have fun- and don't really care what people think about our brand of fun. They can accept us or.... leave. Okay, so maybe "redneck" is a better term?  LOL  Atleast compared to the high falutin' Canby rich folk?  LOL

Really, Don, how many families do you know who do that chin singing bit.. AND record it.. AND show it to guests in their home for kicks?

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♥ Laugh your heart out, dance in the rain. Cherish the memories, ignore the pain. Love and learn, forget and forgive. Because you only have one life to live. ♥

Yeah, well that's true....start your own Canby Hillbillies TV show!!

Not many.   What the heck is it, anyway  :shock:


From what I've seen, the Snake river gorge area of Hell's Canyon is gorgeous. Not sure if it's directly accessible from roadways, is it ?  I'm thinking you'd need a really good ATA type protector case for your instrument if you are going to hike area's such as that with it..Something that floats too... those category 5 rapids can do a number on the neck of your instrument if you don't loosten string tension first  LOL

Ovation guitar's are perfect for the ocassion.  You can use them as a Wok, chase bear away swinging at them (with the high impact polycarb or plastic composite material), and paddle out've whirlpool area's you might end up stalled in !  Oh yeah,  You can play them musically sometimes too !

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Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".

What's a music thread without an "Ovation" joke ?

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You know a style I don't understand being born and raised a northerner. I've heard it, and it's a fun-style.. Yet why is "Dixieland" considered "Jazz" ? Who's the big band known in this genre of music ? "The Preservation Jazz Band" ?  While I know the definition of Jazz is somewhat ambiguous, (yet it derives from blues format), Wouldn't a term such as "bop" be closer to a correct definition ?  I don't know,  I'm asking. It just doesn't seem to incorporate scales and styles of traditional or free-form jazz. Perhaps just ":Dixieland: yet I'm curious where the term Jazz came from with this particular genre.  I don't understand the link between that style and Jazz (at least as I semi-understand Jazz as a jazz musician, or it's older derivation)...

Of course certain styles such as SKA and raggae are still pretty new to me as well. Cross-over styles Jamaica-US-Cuban are quite interesting... Squirrel nut Zippers for instance.... (We discussed this over a year ago,  THe Zippers did "The Ghost of Stephen Foster") and have talented horn players !  This does seem reminiscent of an older larger party hornband style...the ethnic influences are readily heard in their style.. which is interesting for native North Carolina musicians..IMO..SKA, Bossa, interesting rhythmic structure they use..  Not sure, but is there a big difference between Jamaican and Cuban styles in this area ?  SInce this is an international bboard, anyone know ?

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Hey now. Some of us can't afford to go buy a brand new Gibson or Martin like we would LIKE to have, and we have to make do with what the local pawn shop has to offer.

I got my guitar, an Applause, at the pawn shop..... $200.....and it's served my purposes just fine. Of course, I'm not a famous guitarist, and don't even play all that well, so it's not like I NEED a more name brand guitar. Actually, to give it credit... it does have a pretty good sound. Not the best, but I've heard much worse- MUCH worse.  A nice set of strings can make all the difference ya know. (and singing loud enough to cover the guitar, doesn't hurt either, lmao)

Steven.... Ya don't float down the Snake River through Hell's Canyon playing your guitar..... you save that for the campground. Or, while fishing on the bank.  :D  While floating through Hell's Canyon- you just "get in, sit down, shut up, and hang on".  :dancin:

Chin singing: My god, this is gonna blow my image, haha. (do I have an image here yet?) You have someone paint a face, upside down on your chin (eyes and nose) You put maybe a bit of like craft store doll hair (that's what we used) on your chin, a little hat or something to add to it...... Your mouth- is your mouth- only upside down.

Now, cover your "real" nose, eyes, all that up with a cloth of some kind..... and zoom in with the camcorder to just your mouth, painted on eyes & nose, and whatever little headpiece ya got serving as hair on your chin. And you get this dorky little upside down face singing. It's very retarted, but hillarious. Something we did one day while we were bored. My sis came up with "You know what I saw one time".... and before long, we were all game to do it. And of course recorded it, and of course it's been shown to other people.  :no:

>Don, I've now defined "my family is wierd"<  LOL

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♥ Laugh your heart out, dance in the rain. Cherish the memories, ignore the pain. Love and learn, forget and forgive. Because you only have one life to live. ♥

There was some older TV show that had that !   I don't recall which, I have in fact heard of this done... This goes WAY back... Was it Soupy Sales ?  Hee-Haw ?


Charmin, I was just joking, I like Ovation.. Yet you know how things are.. THe traditional guitarists don't want to think anything but "Fine wood" should go into the crafting of a "wooden instrument".  Reason I like Ovation is because I know Charlie Kaman, Love the onboard electronics they use, and hate belt-buckle scratches and dings in my nice instruments....HEHEHE,  I'm anal like that... Yet I do like Ovation guitars,  In most guitar boards there are ovation jokes,  sort've like "Drummer jokes" among guitarists...


Adrian, (or anyone who's traveled out've Western area's perhaps as servicemen)

What are major differences between "Western MUsic" styles, and some other areas ?  I've heard styles that don't use tempered or chromaticism inn their scales..Some hang onto even one note bending it...REALLY interesting,,,I know NOTHING about other NON-Western styles of music.. I'd like to hear a few.. WHile I am familiar with international scales used in music, this goes WAY beyond that...certain tribal styles are really interesting... even the instruments

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Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".

Okay, I'll untie that knot in my hangin' rope then.  LOL

Kidding ya, of course. I do have my eye on a guitar I dream about almost nightly. It's a Gibson. I've always wanted a new Gibson. When I last went to Weiser, the Gibson guitar trailer was there.... and I must have spent an hour in that place, just simply drooling. I played the Sheryl Crow signature model (much too large bodied for me tho).. as well as a couple of others. But, I've got my eye on a specific model now, and one of these days...... ONE of these days........ I'll be on here saying "guess what I got??". (when I hit the lottery I guess, haha)

Go here: (yes, I have this saved in my "favorites" LoL)

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LSC2ANGH/

Make sure you click on the button to enlarge the pic.. it's a beautiful guitar. And, being a Gibson, I wouldn't have to even question the sound quality. It's not a large body, it's thin..... I think it would be perfect size for me.  And I would never buy anything BUT a cutaway. I just like them.  And I love this blonde color... that's my exact "future" guitar. Just gotta get it before they discontinue that model.  LOL  Again, not that I'm a grand guitar player. But, if I had that thing.... I'd never leave home without it.

Yes, my sister saw that chin thingee on some old show. I don't recall it being Hee Haw, I watched that all the time as a kid. But it coulda been....?? My sis just thought it would be hillarious that way. My version of "Yodeling Blues" is quite entertaining to say the least.  :rotflmao:  The mouth looks pretty stupid while singing if you watch it upside down... all smiles, frowns, everything is reversed. Cheap entertainment.

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You might want to check out one of the NUMEROUS other makers of guitars,  While being from the old school myself, I feel I have to have a bunch of Gibson's, yet for acoustic electric Gibson would likely not be the route I would take.  I also feel you don't need to spend NEARLY that much... Older Guild, Certain Martin lines, Taylor, and MANY MANY other makes have really nice lines out.. You need to hear a few, yet Gibson isn''t necessarily your best bet now-adays, although honestly I don't know... Older Guild guitars were gorgeous !  Prior to the Fender Aquisition. Yet there are plenty of gorgeous new acoustic/electric guitars that are under 2K, that are quilted maple, birdseye maple, and all sort's of nice woods that are really nice sounding...You really need to try somehow to get to a place where you can try quite a few...One of my favorite older models was the Guild D-55.. It was just a gorgeous guitar...The older Guild Starfire's were gorgeous acoustic 12-strings...

You might opt to also do a WWW search for Taylor, Martin, Collings, Santa Cruz, Gibson, even Takamine and Yamaha...just to get an idea of the guitar designs they have out... Lastly, I wouldn't go necessarily by "name" and price at all... All companies make really nice, and really cruddy guitars even given the exact same model,  NO two Gibson J-200's are identicle in quality and sound....little differences change sound... If you get a chance to try a bunch of acoustic/electric guitars you are lucky, but might VERY well find a $600 guitar is more pleasing to you than a $4000 guitar... Try to go be feel and sound not really looks...Although I too like looks but quite honestly if I can pay a luthier or company like Seagull 400 for a really nice sounding guitar rather than another company $2000 for their advertising expenses, I'd opt for just nice sound and neck...and overlook name on the headstock....My own feelings are if a person has alot of money, and wants to get into a guitar they can turn around and likely not lose a penny, but in fact make money on the transaction, Sure the high-end luthier's, and makers of guitars might be an investment...Yet I've played gorgeous sounding Yamaha's too.... Try a BUNCH, it takes a long time, yet now, I'm circumventing expensive if possible, and favoring lesser cost, possibly lesser known make, yet equal or better construction at a given time, and comparable or better sound...

JMO... Sure I love Gibson,  Yet today I'd not buy THEIR Les Paul, (without knowing how this period of time is regarding Gibson quality, they've had MANY bad periods of production) nor should I have bought my LP around 1980 when I bought one of m y Norlin Gibson LP CUstoms.. I'd spend TODAY 1/3 or less on an Epiphone LP and drop after market classic or Seymour Duncan pickups in the guitar... I tend to research the market extensively... Yet granted, it's easier to by a higher end guitar assuming by name, it's tops.... Reality is, a person doesn't need to spend over 2K in my opinion to get a comparable sounding instrument...yet it takes ALOT of shopping around,  companies such as ELderly and Mandolin bros were AMAZING for their customer service dept... People could sample guitars and return them....really nice policy ages ago....some people paid a certain amount of money (because face it, mail order buying a wooden instrument is hit of miss, even assuming you buy the same exact make twice...two of the same guitar even differ...

I think today, to get amazing options, I'd pay money to one of the well known stores if I couldn't travel to a huge second hand seller...and try a bunch.... it takes awhile...yet for me, the right guitar won't likely happen overnight... I've thought I've heard "The perfect guitar", yet it's always someone elses model...HEHEHE, and it's been modified, usually has active electronics, so it's not it's natural sound...even the neck might be a little different than what I like...I can go crazy with the quest...there are SO many luthiers that make nicer guitars than GIbson tho.... IMO..Size is another consideration...INstrument research isn't easy....the geography of guitar makers is scattered all over....A few spectacular canadian companies too !

Hope this is somewhat organized.. I literally gabbed away here and typed this while doing a few other things in about a minute or two...I'm rushed today.

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Oh, I've looked at all kinds. I've played many brands too, my sis has a Washburn that I love........ and she never plays, it sits in her CLOSET, in it's CASE.......  :banghead: . Makes me sick. It's a great sounding guitar, and is serving no purpose. My other sis, I think has a Carlos. It's a decent sounding guitar, though a cheapo. One of my sisters has an Ibanez, very nice guitar, though it's showing it's age.... they've had it since the early 80's. And it's not been taken the best care of, their son growing up was a heathen on instruments. But it plays real well still. (just looks like Willie Nelson's guitar, haha)

I just..... have played Gibsons..... and I have a slightly personal reason for always having wanted one. The guitar is gorgeous IMO, but that's not the only reason I want it. The new & sparkly thing - is just a bonus as far as I'm concerned. I've tested quite a few in local stores. I do NOT like the new electonics they put in the new accoustic/electric models. I really like the old style, like my Applause has. Heck, I should just have my Applause repaired. It is blue...... and the upper right side, is seriously cracked & split. Not MY doing..... but I have never repaired a guitar, and don't wanna try. It still plays fine, it's just not so pretty anymore.  (It's in a pic in my gallery actually, but you can't see the bad spot..... my arm is covering it)

Nope, this Gibson is what I want. Someday, I'll run across one in a music store so I can try it on for size. But, I'm stubborn when I get my mind made up that I want something, haha, I don't sway very easily.  If ever I get the chance- this is the one I want to buy. (heck, it's a bit more than my Bronco costed though, LoL)

See you all tomorrow, gotta get going and start supper.  :wave:

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Yeah, That's called I "nuance-specific", or nack a person inherently seems to have, some have it for speed, time signatures, and all sorts of stuff....There's stuff I'll probably NEVER be able to do... I think like reflex, certain people are born with specific nacks other's just can't achieve.




Does he still have that smaller bodied Martin with the expanding sound-hole ?  hehehe

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Northeast United States runner up for the "Singing Hall of Shame".