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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:22 am 
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This thread was started by that Steven Kaplan guy, so who cares what we do in here?  


  I suppose,  I never really did like that @&&#ole anyway <shrug>

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I would go with yellow, red, and brown legos in a striped pattern to make your own lego rasta thump box.


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Of course I don't think you are joking !  An amplifier has been doing that with guitar amps for awhile, the name of the company is actually "Art".  They started with the high impact either polyprop, or polycarb shortly after Charlie Kaman (Kaman Aerospace) founder of "Ovation", and not a bad bluegrass picker either...decided even guitar's can be made of plastic !

Now alot of companies are doing that with PA's of course.... Wood is a thing of the past :(    Fender Passport, JBL Ion..... aren't they plastic cabs ?

Thing is Topher,  You'd have to seal the lego's airtight... Can you imagine what a 15 inch speaker with bass would do to a cabinet of lego's ?

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[quote]Thing is Topher,  You'd have to seal the lego's airtight... Can you imagine what a 15 inch speaker with bass would do to a cabinet of lego's ?[quote]

That alone may actually be worth seeing JUST ONCE in my life. Encase a 18" woofer in a box of legos and watch it explode from the first note of some heavy hitting techno.

Those poor poor lego pirates!!

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I have a buddy who scours garage sales every Saturday morning for cheap speakers, working or not, for parts then takes them apart and saves the good parts to put back together into new cabs (he does the same thing with broken computers). He mostly gets home theater speakers, but also gets about 20% PA stuff. He's able to build new speakers for usually around $10-15 in actual investment (plus his time).

It makes a good hobby!!




I live in an area filled with mulitple dwelling complexes.. Upper middle-class area too... When people move, or throw- out their spouses, girlfriends, Boyfriends, Audiophile brother-in-law YOU find some amazing things around dumpster area's... Assuming you aren't too proud to go dumpster fishing (Which I incidently am NOT)... Let me give you an idea of what I've found in the past 20+ years or so...

Loads of perfect pairs of Fisher speakers in perfect shape...(for some reason)
B&O Turntable perfect shape
Bozak speakers big, but great shape
four JBL bookshelf speakers 75 watt handling each, perfect shape
Sherwood Tube amp and sherwood tube receiver (caps needed cleaning)
A few analogue shortwave receiver base type setups...one or two bad tubes
(cosmetically great shape)

Loads of artwork... framed in mint condition (and I don't mean used toilet seats)
National Dobro
Loads of Televisions that worked (evictions I suppose) 30 inches and smaller...
Loads of VCR's....that worked...Who know's why they were tossed, Older models :(

Just goes to show you,  some of us that are looking for "A life",  find true meaning
in the dumpster !   :worship:   (well something like that anyway)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:43 am 
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Kappy You are only limited by imagination This guy does it with junk






and what he does looks alot nicer than some of the modern sculpters (that supposedly make metal statue art using arc-welders and sheet metal) turn out !

I'd be afraid of sitting on that bench under the VW bug frame however.... If that's actual metal, the parabolic pedistal and the ground points might not be sturdy  :shock:

(nah,  I'm sure he know's what he's doing, has some architectural background and structural engineering behind him, obviously metallurgy too)



Charmin,  it's funny.. When I typed the above, I hadn't yet seen your picnic table post.....seriously didn't...  Yet that's the first thing that came to my mind too.... OUCH !!

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Charmin, I wonder if that is a metal, or plastic car frame.... Couldn't really tell but it looked like an actual older VW.. Considering we had to lug around 400 lb Hammond B-3's in the old days..... It'd have been worth integrating a whole keyboard station inside a small car frame, and just lifting the car onto a flatbed and hauling it to gigs.... Of even driving it into the school gyms....Just mount some keyboards on the sides of  your VW bus..., and have all the keyboard mixers in there...  I'm sure it'd be no less cumbersome that EVH's Hydrogen half bombshell....

NIice thing about missile, or rocket casings.... They likely pass ATA specs and are roadworthy   LOL


Hey,  Topher....You think a few of us can market Rack units that are scud missle casings ? Perhaps 40 space racks... with a compartment for extraneous gear !

or an A1 Abrams sound room ?


On a better related note.... Ultimate Support systems used to have an area they called "Thinker toys".  When I bought my A-frame (Apache ???)  Three tier keyboard racks I always went with the US A frame.... 48 or 60 inches....

You could build music stations, and lighting as well as sound setups with their stuff, they had photo's of folks that built towers and side by side audio racks that were really amazing feats...  I suppose now you can still get the aluminum pipe cut at Depot,  but they sold all the joints, and coupling.... I loved that site...

US stuff was decent,  I have NO idea why they discontinued their A-frame keyboard stands... That design also made a really sturdy workstation to add a computer too and a strong base to add upright tiers onto for amps and mixers, It even housed rack systems

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Charmin, I wonder if that is a metal, or plastic car frame.... Couldn't really tell but it looked like an actual older VW.. Considering we had to lug around 400 lb Hammond B-3's in the old days..... It'd have been worth integrating a whole keyboard station inside a small car frame, and just lifting the car onto a flatbed and hauling it to gigs.... Of even driving it into the school gyms....Just mount some keyboards on the sides of  your VW bus..., and have all the keyboard mixers in there...  I'm sure it'd be no less cumbersome that EVH's Hydrogen half bombshell....


Actually besides the triangle the oval is one of the most rigid structures made. Put your hand on the table and pull it up into an oval shape. Then push down on it with the other hand it is almost impossible.

These pics dont show his first big ones. They are the old great big threshing machines made into dinasours.. During the holidays when he goes all out and lights all his stuff people come from miles around It is awesome to say the least.

When we were kids we made most of our stuff out of wood including toy guns sling shots or anything else we wanted to play with..So making a bass box out of legos or barn wood or anything else would as natural to me as frying eggs. We used to steal speakers out of driveins and mount them in the space by the back window or in door panels. There is nothing that sounds better than a speaker mounted in the back door
panel of a 57 chevy...I think they were jensens....


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or would american car's have used motorola back in those days ?  Alot of speakers as I recall said motorola.... where those made by Jensen for the Motorola company ?  or did Motorola actually make their own speakers in the 50's and 60's ?

Was Utah around then ?   I recall alot of Motorola comp in the 50's cars.... I think German cars were Blaupunkt speakers ?   Did they make speakers too, or were speakers made for them ?

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Steven Kaplan @ Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:43 am wrote:

Charmin,  it's funny.. When I typed the above, I hadn't yet seen your picnic table post.....seriously didn't...  Yet that's the first thing that came to my mind too.... OUCH !!


Yeah, what's that old saying?...... "Great minds think alike"??....... or was it "Twisted phrenics all think alike"??  LMAO  ANY-who.


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Charmin, I wonder if that is a metal, or plastic car frame.... Couldn't really tell but it looked like an actual older VW.. Considering we had to lug around 400 lb Hammond B-3's in the old days..... It'd have been worth integrating a whole keyboard station inside a small car frame, and just lifting the car onto a flatbed and hauling it to gigs.... Of even driving it into the school gyms....Just mount some keyboards on the sides of  your VW bus..., and have all the keyboard mixers in there...  I'm sure it'd be no less cumbersome that EVH's Hydrogen half bombshell....


Who cares? All VW's are good for anyhow is chopping up to make sandrails.  LOL  But hey, Steven, I like that idear ya got going there. But even better..... use like an old trailer itself........ with all the hydraulics they have nowadays, shoot:

A trailer lined on the floor and walls with wood laminate, all set up and wired with 110.... you pull up to your venue, push a button, and it opens to a stage, and all your stuff is already set up. Ya just plug a heavy duty cord into it, and you're all set. Could even have one side stay put, for your stage backdrop. Man, I like your idea. A VW- might work. But gosh, I play only as a hobbyist and not even HALF of my stuff would fit in a VW.  Ima have to check into making one of those, soon as those #@%$!^ lottery numbers hit.  :yes:

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Actually that would be a great idea for band practices.. and outdoor gigs spring and summer, perhaps year round in certain climates. Rather than a studio, and having to knock down the drums, keys, bass gear, and PA.... Get a double-wide motorhome...Nah, problem is side collisions it wouldn't pass DMV inspection in the US assuming you wanted a side that opened to a canopy, and had an extension semi-circle precenium thrust type stage for the vocalist......Unless of course you had a hinged metal side that folded down to the motorhome :bouncer:   Oh boy,  that'd even make gigging doable for we groupiless old-farts that would have to hire young kids to lift even our stomp boxes off the ground for us...



Yet this can get confusing,  It's still never a smart thing for ANY living critter to bend over within visual distance of an old drummer... They get confused...Yet still have that :dancin:   (Well...Yeah know...the reason you have to hide the women, dogs, etc around them)

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Makes sense Don,  Which is why the bass often has to be 3-4X the volume of the guitar to cut thru the mix...  Hope the dentist went alright btw

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r would american car's have used motorola back in those days ?  Alot of speakers as I recall said motorola.... where those made by Jensen for the Motorola company ?  or did Motorola actually make their own speakers in the 50's and 60's ?

 The drive in speakers I think were Jensens.  I think Fomoco used Delta radio products inc speakers. Chrysler might have used Motorola.. The German originals I think were Telefunken. I did work on some German jukeboxes but I cant remember the brand.


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I just recall Wurlitzer (who I think also had german makes?)

Seeburg, and Rowe.....

Don't recall other Jukeboxes...but some of those sounded fabulous.

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NSM here Pan down to 1995 wall box. They were compact and hard to work on .. I was working on the old vinyls when the cd's came out both tubes and transitorized.  We lit many bars with 2x60 watts and for large areas used the 70 volt system. Seeburg cd actually used a Sony cd carriage and optics. Rowe here was the best until Pioneer came out with theirs.. They were built to be hauled around in a pickup put in smoke filled bars and last. I actually dropped one off a tommy lift didnt phase it. The optics could be cleaned with alcohol and the suspension was fairly heavy and built for abuse. Whereas in karaoke cd and comp cd drives are very sensitive to pressure. The cd's were 100-250 watts and we could put out more sound than the karaoke systems they use in the small venues like 300-600 w per.. I put a 100 watt L-pad in a 100 watt pioneer and they fried it one night and filled the bar full of smoke.


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I like the second Phoenix model....

The German models are quite attractive, How many of those have you worked on ?

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