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 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:55 pm |
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Now what?.....I guess I have two mixers......One for spare.
No, actually I plan to audition the Mackie and see how it sounds and finger fiddle with it for a day or two...Then I will decide it I want to keep it....If I keep it, then there will be a Berhinger up for grabs.
My cousin in Oklahoma (catusjack)would get first grab at it except he runs a powered mixer(against my advice)....I don't like Cousin Catus Jack anymore either because he is so jealous of his wife....So I doubt he will get the mixer. 
Hey cuz, I just got your email but haven't read it...I'll get back to you on it.
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:56 pm |
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Sounds like the problem is with the BBE not the Behringer. Everyone so quick to dis it.
Remember folks before giving up the ghost, check all connections and wires first. These are usually the problem. I wonder how many mixers out there (Behringers and others) were scrapped because they weren't examined and tested properly.
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:06 pm |
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timberlea @ Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:56 pm wrote: Sounds like the problem is with the BBE not the Behringer. Everyone so quick to dis it.
Remember folks before giving up the ghost, check all connections and wires first. These are usually the problem. I wonder how many mixers out there (Behringers and others) were scrapped because they weren't examined and tested properly.
Not everyone has a Robbie with a key to their house either......
I guess the biggest reason I will not stop the Mackie shipment is I would no longer have a reason to kill Robbie.....
This is the same Robbie that decided to surf porn on my music computer last month and gained me 120+ viruses and other nasty stuff.....The same Robbie that reprogramed my TV last week without me knowing it....I came home to 60 inches of bright, bright red faces.....Robbie is almost color blind, so he decides to reconfigure my bigscreen for his distorted vision.....Robbie eats all my food.....Robbie leaves the sink full of dirty dishes.....
Robbie is going to die....I've made up my mind.
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:11 pm |
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timberlea @ Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:56 pm wrote: Sounds like the problem is with the BBE not the Behringer. Everyone so quick to dis it.
Doubt it's the BBE, if the BBE was off & only one side was still coming through, then the mixer is wired half to the BBE & half wherever the BBE plugs into.
And I am not quick to dis, i've always dissed them :no: Kudos to the few that have luck with them, i've never been one of them. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:14 pm |
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....Oh, and Robbie's horse is a big bully....He kicks and bites my horse. 
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:23 pm |
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Lonman @ Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:11 pm wrote: timberlea @ Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:56 pm wrote: Sounds like the problem is with the BBE not the Behringer. Everyone so quick to dis it. Doubt it's the BBE, if the BBE was off & only one side was still coming through, then the mixer is wired half to the BBE & half wherever the BBE plugs into. And I am not quick to dis, i've always dissed them :no: Kudos to the few that have luck with them, i've never been one of them. Well, my BBE is the 822A...It's a dual channel unit...I HAD it patched stereo, L-R, with left suppling my subs in mono and the top left, with the the right side on the other top cab.
I'm thinking someone (now who could that be?) did some experimenting and swapped some patch cables around......I'm thinking the left side of the BBE got by-passed and it wasn't evident with the BBE switched off...The only thing that keyed me to it was I had no subs cause they come off the left side....Robbie wasn't here when I discovered it, but he had been using my system cause there were discs everywhere and my mic strips were EQ'd all out of whack......It had to be him experimenting....
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Steven Kaplan
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:36 pm |
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Quote: This is the same Robbie that decided to surf porn on my music computer last month and gained me 120+ viruses and other nasty stuff.....
It's disgusting how perfectly respectable porn seem's to have so many viruses. Especially those really nice fetish rooms. Why some of these virus creator's link my email directory to the sites I visit eludes me... They seem to feel my parent's and friends in law enforcement wish to know about a few of my private studies in area's of human relations.
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:31 pm |
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Steven Kaplan @ Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:36 pm wrote: Quote: This is the same Robbie that decided to surf porn on my music computer last month and gained me 120+ viruses and other nasty stuff..... They seem to feel my parent's and friends in law enforcement wish to know about a few of my private studies in area's of human relations. Nope,.....the sites don't tattle on you....They just match you up with others who share the same interest.....
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:53 pm |
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Not to sound like a used car salesman ---BUT if I can help out a fellow KJ
I went the opposite route and replaced my Mackie DFx12 with the Behringer 122fx -
The Mackie I JUST listed on ebay if anyone is interested. It is in great shape and condition it just wasn't RACKMOUNTED which is why I switched. \
send me a PM if interested just looking for around $100 plus shipping- can't beat the price --Also a BBE 362 up for sale . Sorry for the Ad but ..someone could benefit (beside myself) --and thats what is all about
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:19 pm |
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I don't know about the DFX, but the CFX is rackable only if you buy the rack ears separate(which I did today).
But beware, those ears are 50 BUCKS!
They come free with the Behringer.
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:28 pm |
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Hey Lonman,
I've been reading up on the Mackie CFX I just bought...It gets lots of rave reviews and all that, but it seems limited due to only 2 stereo inputs.
I've got the dual player Numark and of course, the PC delta 44 outputs to worry about.....So I really need a minimum of 3 stereo inputs......I'm thinking I will patch the PC in via 2 mono strips cause I can attenuate/match output levels via the delta software, and bring the Numark in thru the stereo strips.
I really like the Mackie stereo strips, even tho there are only two of them.....Each have a super EQ setup, AND the ability to bring in 2 separate FX, one being the onboard and the other being your choice of outboard FX...
I also like the inserts on the mains!
I don't like that the low cuts are 100Hz VS 75-80Hz....And who the heck needs a subwoofer output set at a fixed 75Hz?
I'm working my way thru the owners manual while I wait for the mixer....I'll probably have a few questions for you.
Thanks for your help.
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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:17 pm |
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Keith01 @ Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:28 pm wrote: Hey Lonman,
I've been reading up on the Mackie CFX I just bought...It gets lots of rave reviews and all that, but it seems limited due to only 2 stereo inputs.
I've got the dual player Numark and of course, the PC delta 44 outputs to worry about.....So I really need a minimum of 3 stereo inputs......I'm thinking I will patch the PC in via 2 mono strips cause I can attenuate/match output levels via the delta software, and bring the Numark in thru the stereo strips.
I really like the Mackie stereo strips, even tho there are only two of them.....Each have a super EQ setup, AND the ability to bring in 2 separate FX, one being the onboard and the other being your choice of outboard FX...
I also like the inserts on the mains!
I don't like that the low cuts are 100Hz VS 75-80Hz....And who the heck needs a subwoofer output set at a fixed 75Hz?
I'm working my way thru the owners manual while I wait for the mixer....I'll probably have a few questions for you.
Thanks for your help.
I have the same problem, 3 players. I just put the 2 that I use most on the stereo strips & the 3rd on two separate faders. I've never seen it as a huge obsticle myself - though it would be nice if they had 4 stereo strips, I just got used to it. You can actually hook 2 outboard effects & bypass the internal completely as well if you choose.
I used to use the sub out, it sounded fine, however, it doesn't high pass to the main out, so the mains are getting the same low frequencies - on the other hand the sub out is set at a pretty high output so you can actually cut the bass frequencies & still get a really nice kick in the chest feel without hurting the mains. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:23 am |
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well i was right it got robbieized, and no i'm not jealous of my wife even tho keith would like to feed me rat poison and move her to louisiana, hey cuz i can buy an amp to match the mixer send it to me with what you want for it, and no for the last time i'm not trading diane for the mixer.....we miss you too cactus & di
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:15 pm |
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Nope, forget it...I canceled the mixer today and had them send me some other stuff. I'll describe it in another thread.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:11 pm |
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Keith01 @ Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:33 pm wrote: AAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!........AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH!
Pant, pant.......AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!
I am going to kill my very best buddy, Robbie....I mean it this time, I am going to kill him and then gut him, and then feed him to the hogs.....
You see,.....Just 2 hours ago I call Sweetwater from work and order the Mackie CFX MkII.......Then I come home and go back to tinkering with the Behringer.....That's when I decide to just start at the bottom of my rack and work my way thru to the top and check everything....And that's when I find the BBE switched off.....
I switched the BBE on and I now have stereo...Both sides sounding nice and brite and loud.....Robbie must have switched it off experimenting with my gear.....My whole rack is switched off one powerstrip, I never turn off any one item im my mixer/effects stack......
So ok, I found the problem but it revealed another problem....I should have lost both sides, not just one with the BBE switched off....So I need to to jerk the patch bay and repatch everything.
Well, at least I will have a new Mackie CFX12 next week. LOL LOL LOL LOL Sorry to laugh, but this is priceless for me...being that i get greif for recomending Behringer. So, I assume you still like your BEHRINGER UB? Casue I know I love mine! But on a serious note, like others said, before jumping the gun make sure to chek, double check, TRIPLE check all connections before buying anything. I ran into a similar problem when I used to use CDGs. For some reason the CDG play went all screwy, could not figure out what was wrong, music was OK, but video was screwed up. Borrowed another player frome a freind, and ordered a new one for me. Come to find out a few days after ordering, that someone had switched the NTSC/PAL switch....GRRRR, so refused delivery of the new player, and all was fine, except for my ego. Again, check, double check triple check!!!!! And make sure you have enough duct tape!!!! PRICELESS.......... Lonman @ Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:17 pm wrote: Keith01 @ Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:01 am wrote: :(
My UB1222FX-PRO just died....2 weeks out of warranty of course...Just like my last UB mixer. Won't say anything..................  [/quote]
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twansenne @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:11 pm wrote: :whistle:
Yep, still garbage to me. Like i've stated over & over for the handful that can get them to work for them & make them last - kudos! Never had any luck with them so rather than spending money over & over on a disposable unit, I pay for quality products & haven't had a problem since. But then I don't care for the Sax & Dottys either - hate the mp3 sound over the crispness of the kma file. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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Lonman @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:16 pm wrote: twansenne @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:11 pm wrote: :whistle:
Yep, still garbage to me. Like i've stated over & over for the handful that can get them to work for them & make them last - kudos! Never had any luck with them so rather than spending money over & over on a disposable unit, I pay for quality products & haven't had a problem since. But then I don't care for the Sax & Dottys either - hate the mp3 sound over the crispness of the kma file.  Lonman @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:12 pm wrote: AllStar @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:40 pm wrote: Rather get a cab with a power horn, a 8 or 10 inch mids driver and then the 15 inch. The vocals will be much clearer throught the mids then just the bass driver. Kind of like http://www.carvin.com/products/single.p ... 53&CID=TRXNICE sounding speaker here! At least we still agree on the speakers :whistle:
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Lonman @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:16 pm wrote: twansenne @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:11 pm wrote: :whistle:
Yep, still garbage to me. Like i've stated over & over for the handful that can get them to work for them & make them last - kudos! Never had any luck with them so rather than spending money over & over on a disposable unit, I pay for quality products & haven't had a problem since. But then I don't care for the Sax & Dottys either - hate the mp3 sound over the crispness of the kma file. If there are only a handful of people that can get them to work, then why is Behringer still in business? And how are the true Pros (not us lil KJs/Djs), that are out oun the road, using Behringer equipment survive?
You can get a crap equipment from any manufacture, dose not mater how much it cost or where it was made.
I saw a BMW dead on the side of the road the other day as I drove by in my Geo Prism.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:52 pm |
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twansenne @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:43 pm wrote: [If there are only a handful of people that can get them to work, then why is Behringer still in business? And how are the true Pros (not us lil KJs/Djs), that are out oun the road, using Behringer equipment survive? Cheap components, cheap labor, cheap selling prices. 100 units at $1 each = the same as 1 unit @ $100 each. They make their money in bulk sales. Quote: You can get a crap equipment from any manufacture, dose not mater how much it cost or where it was made. You are so correct & i've stated this myself, but some have more F-ups than others Quote: I saw a BMW dead on the side of the road the other day as I drove by in my Geo Prism.
Wouldn't buy a BMW ever, buy American (at least an American company). At least my Mackie - well at least for me - service is in my back yard so to speak, not that i've ever needed them. I take that back, a few years back I did buy a used 1604 that had a bad channel, took it to Mackie & they fixed it - FREE! Sold the board to upgrade my home studio at the time which was a Mackie 32*8*2 console (studio is all gone now). I now have another 1604 that just replaced a POS Behringer UB2442FXPro that I bought from here & another forum because of "high praise", well it died a little after the warranty ran out about a year. What a waste of money. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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Lonman @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:52 pm wrote: twansenne @ Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:43 pm wrote: [If there are only a handful of people that can get them to work, then why is Behringer still in business? And how are the true Pros (not us lil KJs/Djs), that are out oun the road, using Behringer equipment survive? Cheap components, cheap labor, cheap selling prices. 100 units at $1 each = the same as 1 unit @ $100 each. They make their money in bulk sales. So what if they use cheap labor or selling prices. ANd as far as cheap components, how do you know that they are? Taken them apart, priced it out, compared to other "name-brands"? Just becasue something is CHEAP dosent mean it is of lesser quality. I can get a monster cable for $500, or buy the same components and assemble myself for 1/2 the price. Does that mean my cable, although made of the same compopnents as the monster cable, is of lesser quality becasue it was cheaper? Quote: Quote: You can get a crap equipment from any manufacture, dose not mater how much it cost or where it was made.
You are so correct & i've stated this myself, but some have more F-ups than others So are you saying that Behringer has more F-ups than other manufactures? IF so, show me the numbers for a reliable source, not just conjecture. Quote: Quote: I saw a BMW dead on the side of the road the other day as I drove by in my Geo Prism. Wouldn't buy a BMW ever, buy American (at least an American company). At least my Mackie - well at least for me - service is in my back yard so to speak, not that i've ever needed them. I take that back, a few years back I did buy a used 1604 that had a bad channel, took it to Mackie & they fixed it - FREE! Sold the board to upgrade my home studio at the time which was a Mackie 32*8*2 console (studio is all gone now). I now have another 1604 that just replaced a POS Behringer UB2442FXPro that I bought from here & another forum because of "high praise", well it died a little after the warranty ran out about a year. What a waste of money. I have never had any of my Behringer equipment go bad, so no need for "FREE" service, in fact, no need for any serice at all. Some of it has been used at minium of 2 nites a week for 2 years, in a smoke filled, "WE WANT LOUD MUSIC", redneck fighting, bar, with not one glitch!
I also have drive by a LOT of brand new american cars, dead on the road in my Geo Prism.
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