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 Post subject: Re: Mixer question
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:00 am 
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Run your RCA cords inti an 1/4 inch adaptor and plg it into your stereo slots. You'll be able to fade in & out between the 2 players.

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 Post subject: Re: Mixer question
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:06 am 
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lyquiddye @ Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:05 pm wrote:
I would suggest a Yamaha MG 16/4 mixer. SLightler hier in price than a Behringer and  less expensive than a Mackie. The mic preamps are much better than both the Mackie and The Behringer.

I do not suggest using tape input on any mixer as it will give you no gain or eq control on the channel. I run 4 stereo inputs on my yamaha mixer. Along with 4 micophone channels and 2 effects returned on main channels and have 2 channels to spare.


I agree with you on the choice of brand but would recommend the model Badsinger is using instead, the  MG 16/6fx!  Yamaha is the best buy at the moment, can't wait for my Behringer to die so I can buy this, I've got a mic input that's dead, so still 3 to go :giveup:


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Rather than go with the M-audio audio interface for computer, any opinions as to whether I can circumvent that going with something like this directly into the computer ?

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-MAC-DFX6.html

Another possibility is I have an old Teac M-09 audio mixer.  Can I run the headphone out into the computer directly ?   I have impedance adaptors I can use on the low imp Shure microphone's switching them them to 1/4 inch since this mixer only has 1/4 inch inputs. Using a standard instrument or speaker 1/4 patch cord out, and an adapter I have that will adapt 1/4 to computer input size on one end.

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I use the MTU Hoster program.  I run staright our from the headphone input to my Mackie cfx12.  Sounds great.

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Sorry Kelly,  Not sure I follow. You run out of the headphone jack on your Mackie, and into your computer via the musical inst. or microphone input ? This is just for home use, I'm not a KJ.... Not sure if you meant you run your computer into your mackie mixer, for bar use... or use your mackie mixer as the audio interface device going into your computer (for home recording)... I was thinking in terms of the later.... Instead of using the M-audio as an interface, for the same money, getting the mackie mixer and running the mixer directly into the computer....Not sure what the general feeling on this would be, but I'm figuring why not circumvent a basic audio interface, and buy the features of an actual mixer that I run into the computer. Reason being, from my VERY limited knowledge of this stuff (glancing at features), it appears that the audio interface is really just that, with VERY basic features of a mixer (at least in the 200 dollar range), however the mackie mixer that sells for that price seems to have the full capabilities of an unpowered mixer, and more options..I wonder when it's advantageous to go with this firewire stuff (whatever that means) or USB-2, as opposed to running directly into the input plug on the computer with the mixer...


I need to read my Roland DR-5 manual,  That Boss DR-5 might also run directly into the computer, and serve as a midi interface..

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Sorry Steven, maybe I didn't understand.  I run from the ear out of the laptop to 1/4" in my Mackie.  I don't use any "computer" features for mixing my karaoke music.  That's all done with the Mackie.  I just take a staright signal from the laptop to my mixer.  Hope I'm now making sense.

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That Boss DR-5 might also run directly into the computer, and serve as a midi interface..


I would use the audio out l/r into a strip on the mixer... Unless you have a sound board with several midi's in and use the mixing console in the software I would rather use an external desk..   Unless of course you wanted to key the Boss with an internal drum machine...

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Thanks guy's,  Karyoker that's exactly what I need to know,  I'll set that up tonight.. Much appreciated !  Ever since I started blowing up amp's in the 60's doing really stupid things, I haven't wanted to take chances... Technical common sense involves enough technical knowledge to not do some of the dumb things I've managed to do...I recently learned an interesting lesson about the importance of a properly grounded soldering iron too LMAO... TV never quite was the same


OK,  so it's safe to assume I can run the headphone output of any mixer into the computer Karyoker ? The microphone input ?

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The headphone out comes out of a headphone amp which is at a level higher than line level..  I have used it for input to recorders ( comp soundboards included) but you can turn the gain up too high and damage any thing you are driving with it... Running it into the mic input is inviting disaster!!!  Any line level source should go into the line input whether computer or stereo system...

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Once again,  MUCH appreciated,  these are things I don't know !


If I'm understanding this correctly, because there's a volume control, it's an amplified out and can easily overload the source I connect to ?   Sort've the same way slaving can destroy amps and preamps ??

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using the mic input can be done with an attenuator....here

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 Post subject: Re: Mixer question
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OK,  Just to make absolutely certain,  there are three RCA type female 1/8 inch input's on the back of the system   Mic----Line in---Line out, While it's not safe to plug an amped signal into the Mic input, it IS safe to plug into the Line-in 1/8 inch phono plug on the computer ?

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 Post subject: Re: Mixer question
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Yup...... But you should read this cable review first here

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$402 per 8-foot pair  LMAO    OK, I can take a hint !    I've sent you three pair !


You know what's funny,  When I used to glance over some of the audiophile boards, some of these Boutique speaker and amp companies would try convincing the reader why their special brass designed speaker feet at $200/4 should be used on the bottoms of your speakers   :(  I even questioned some of monster cables claims...Something like buying the Pro 1000 studio model, will give discernibly better bass tone, than the Pro 500 cable....  I almost get tempted sometimes to ask the sales person what color cable sounds better,  black or brown LOL

Now while I certainly believe there might be a small difference in quality and conductivity.... For the big difference in price, and the fact that cables easily get lost, and pocketed when you play out....I'll stick with the slighly less costly of the already costly brand (it's cheaper to attach something brass to the bottom of my shoes LOL   )

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