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Yeah........I edited my comment........I found them....

That's some old stuff though.

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Let me write a sequel or one of them to that song. We lost Pa a couple of years ago, a car wreck coming from the VA in Cheyenne. It took a year or 2 but we got all the old cars tractoes and junk cleaned up going clear up the hill.He came from an era that knew  the scum word for every nationality (and all who came to this country paid their dues) they no longer have any sting and but he had many friends. They would be shaking hands trying to out squeeze the other grin and call each other names and laugh and cry. They might go down to the bar get in an argument go out back and bloody each others nose. Then go back in and but each other drinks the rest of the night. Actions like helping the folks next door was what counted and they didnt care what your religion was or didnt try to judge or tell you how to live how to dress or how you could express your self.He lived and tught us kids how to live by the natural and spiritual laws that govern and not the new age philosophy that has destroyed the decent family traditions of all races It has families that are so busy trying to survive they dont have time to develop spiritually let alone raise their kids according the their old established country ways that worked for generations.

Why anybody wants everybody to play some role which satisfies their interpretation of what a man or woman is suppose to be or a patriot or anything else is beyond this old man's comprehension. And then pass laws which punishes anybody who doesnt agree with them or takes babies from mothers in the same guise. I dont like or sing All My Heroes Are Cowboys because cowboys dont pick up hookers They dont abuse their stock or women and they sure dont take from the ladies and leave them. So Ill change the words and  could care less who wrote it and what his philosophy was.It's my song once I sing it. I wasnt gonna respond to this thread but a10cgirl hadda drag my family into it Then by the time I wrote all of this she changed her post......Luv Ya Hon

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Sorry Karyoker about editing the post but once I found the songs it seemed kind of useless to leave it as it was.  

I guess growing up in the south I remember a lot of things that went on during my childhood and on up.  There were no "political correct" terms during that time.  Times were hard for both races and somehow most of us have evolved out of the way we were raised.  I can kind of understand why the songs were written but when I did some research the thing that dissappointed me is these songs are still being sold.   It won't stop me from liking DAC's other songs though.  

The song I was talking about in my former post was "If That's Not Country" and it was about the struggle of a poor veteran and woman trying to make it but it used the "n" word to describe how hard the man worked.   Was this what you were talking about when you said I brought your family into it?   I know what hard times were like, too.  My father was a well digger and his parents raised me.  My grandfather was a taxi driver and my grandmother worked in the cotton fields.  I was in the cotton fields with her from the time I was 2 years old, up until I started 1st grade.

But to cut this off........I just think we are too quick to judge people.  It's okay if people don't like DAC and don't want to sing his songs for whatever reason but it's also okay if I or anyone else wants to.  That's America.   His views don't have anything to do with what I like in music.  He's got some good songs out there.  He's also written songs for Tanya Tucker and Johnny Paycheck.  Those are in the karaoke books too.

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I sense that Allstar has a lot of stuff going on where he feels the need to vent his emotions in this group.  I sympathize with him.  And I would normally take time to understand it.  But I don't think that should be a requirement for me to enjoy lively discussion in this group.  So when it comes to this group, I don't really care what is driving Allstar.  I just refuse to debate him as long as he is so disrespectful.

:-David

I don't need your sympathy David, TYVM. I wasn't about to debate with you or your petty little problems. Knightshow agreed that I wasn't disrespectful, and what Matt says means a lot more to me then any little petty feelings from you. I know he is an honest man, and as for you ????? So, take your stuck-up political correctness and don't bother me with your uptight speech.

Completely agreed.  I update my collection about once a quarter and this last update based on feedback was largely RAP, R&B, Hip-Hop, and what I like to call, "angry white guy music."

My 11 year old son is a really good singer, and we go to family Karaoke on Sunday nights and even a couple of his songs have the blanked out expletives.  He changes the lyrics 99.9% but did slip once when singing Green Day's Blvd. Of Broken Dreams.  We had a LONG talk afterwards.

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Despite the internet rumor, Karaoke is not Japanese for "drunk buffoon with microphone."  However, "rotation," is Japanese for wait your damn turn!

Well I heard mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow

Ya, everyone has got a view -- and Louie Louie was banned when it was released for being intentionally slurred to hide "obscene" lyrics.

I think You Never Even Called Me By My Name (The Greatest Country Song Ever Written) is hysterical...

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Despite the internet rumor, Karaoke is not Japanese for "drunk buffoon with microphone."  However, "rotation," is Japanese for wait your damn turn!

We all tend to label people and judge them by those labels.  Normal behavior of imperfect human beings.  But there is a difference between that thinking and the thinking of say, the Nazis.

David

I think we could all learn a lesson from Don Rickles.  He constantly poked fun at the way we label people and it was funny as hell.  Somehow he never (as far as I know) crossed the line that leads to true hatred.

:-David

Zieg Heil to the president gasman
Bombs away is your punishment
Pulverize the Eiffel towers
Who criticize your government

On no!  Now I can't sing Green Day either...  :wink:

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Despite the internet rumor, Karaoke is not Japanese for "drunk buffoon with microphone."  However, "rotation," is Japanese for wait your damn turn!

My post so I guess I want the last word.

This country does not tolerate murder.  It does not tolerate hate crimes.  It does not tolerate people who incite violence.

To the KJ's.  Ask the barowners whether they tolerate people who incite violence.

The music industry tolerates people who incite violence.  I do not understand why that is.

But as a KJ, you have an option of what you play.  One KJ I knew would not let me sing the "F---" in "She F---ing Hates Me" because it got people too riled up and nobody wants that in a bar.

So it is the KJ's call.  Any consequences from playing or not playing music are the full responsiblity of the KJ.  Just so that is understood.

:-David

Didn't you say.....

But you, my dear friend, can use the F*** word in public.

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So you saying the F*** word in public is acceptable? What's the difference between that and using the N***** word or using any other racist slogans?

because the F word is NOT racist. It's VULGAR. You can say both, but the reactions you get will be very, VERY different in public.

Also, if you say the N word to an individual of African persuasion, you're playing with fire on multiple levels... lawsuits, 86'd out of the place you're at, an aZwhuppin'... etc. etc.

Course there is the Dave Chappelle show episode where he portrayed the Black White Supremist and called a car full of hip/hop listenin' white guys the N word!

They thought it was awesome! ! That had to be the single most hysterical show I've seen from Dave... other than the "Wayne Brady" sketch.

A true word spoken.  :worship: I still say that none are acceptable in public. The N word being racist to certain ethnic groups, while the F word is just as unacceptable to most decent people.

Interesting discussion.  I once had a patron sing Denis Leary's @$$hole (which I think is an utterly hysterical song) and I seriously thought one bar patron, who was so offended was going to take a swing at the kid when he was done.  I've never seen the upset patron or the singer back in since.

The song isn't politically correct, but it revels in the extreme and isn't "actual commentary" for Denis Leary (and I would think for 99-1/2% of the world either).

Unfotunately the attitude of, "if you don't like it change the dial," doesn't work in a Karaoke setup.  I do a lot of Green Day, which is loaded with expletives in their lyrics and at one venue I was asked not to use the "F" word in the songs.  A little surprising as it was a sort of dive sports bar but hey, OK.

On the other hand where I do my Friday night show I have two signature songs.  Life Sucks Then You Die by The Fools, which includes the line, "cut off my d**k with a power tool," and Monty Python's Sit On My Face as the closing song of the night.  Both pieces are met with much approval and I love doing Life Sucks (usually between 11:00 and midnight) as the crowd ALWAYS sings along with the final chorus - and there is just something kind of special about 40 to 80 sort of drunken people singing at the top of their lungs, "life sucks!  Life sucks!  Life sucks!  Then you die..."

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Despite the internet rumor, Karaoke is not Japanese for "drunk buffoon with microphone."  However, "rotation," is Japanese for wait your damn turn!

I don't know. Nothing offeneds me and I will not tolerate being censored by bar owners, everyone knows me very well, and I tame for no one.

see.... that just doesn't make sense to me... If you're in a bar then you're in ADULT company. If you expect to NOT hear 'bad words' or sexual discussion, or what have you... then you're in the WRONG PLACE. I mean.... would you go to an adult-rated movie if swear-words offended you? If the word azzhole offended the guy... I woulda told him to go visit the day care center, and stay outta the bar.

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  Sorry, Crystal.....but I had to laugh because I totally agree with you!  I can't imagine going to a place where you know what goes on and then get offended because it does........

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I have no issues pesonally - and I was surprised at how upset the guy was - Leary's @$$hole has a lot more than that in it - comes close to covering the "seven words" but hey it's a bar - GROW UP.

Now when I'm HOSTING I think the bar is a bit difference - of course Python's Sit On My Face is pretty over the top but I won't be singing Eminem, or Leary, or a couple of others as the HOST.  Sucks in these politically correct times that I have to tap dance around the patrons lest they complain to the management.

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Despite the internet rumor, Karaoke is not Japanese for "drunk buffoon with microphone."  However, "rotation," is Japanese for wait your damn turn!

I used to sing at a place that wouldn't allow any 'coarse' language before 10pm.  Why?  Because the bar was attached to the restaurant and you could hear the singers.  The restaurant closed at 10pm and a short time later the Mama's discs came out along with all the songs that go with them....

If you are in an adult venue you can expect some words....  the 'f' word and racial words are a per venue sort of thing.  Some allow them, some don't because of whatever reason.  Not a problem for me, I sing plenty of songs so I just pick another.

Have I ever sang a song a song with strong language?  Sure, Cowboy (Kid Rock), Strokin' (Clarence Carter), Ode to my car (Adam Sandler), and even In da club (50 cent).  I sometimes censor myself on the 'f' word (depends on the crowd and time of night), but rarely censor myself regarding the 's' word within the lyrics of the song.  

BTW, Because I got high doesn't have any course language that I remember, it's just drug related.  Which also cuts out plenty of other songs, Cocaine, Rainy Day Women, Sweet Transvestite (the 'candy man' was the heroin dealer), and many other songs.  What about 'I've got you under my skin'?  That's a song about 'getting nekkid and getting busy'?  When do we stop?

In a public venue with children present and in most common everyday language I do not use the words, but I tend to sing the song as it come on the screen.

Side note, if I was doing a childrens show I'd print VERY abbreviated books without any course language or obvious references to drugs, sex, or religion (I'd do a religious insert if it was appropriate - a Bah Mitzvah, or church sponsored event).

Watching 5 year olds belt out 'In da club' won't score points with ANYBODY with a shred of decency.