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This type of grouping for a sale (like old discs) puts me back in the same boat - i'll only buy it if it contains more than half of it useable content. I didn't buy discs just to have (they had to contain at least half the songs I neede), not going to do it with digital packs either. Sell them individually and then you're talking!

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Others may disagree but I think it makes sense. You are offering bulk value in both areas. Someone who doesn't want to buy credits or a pack can buy a single track for $2.99 Or get the same track for $2.50 by using a credit from a prior bulk credit purchase. Or buy\pay for a pack that has the track in it where all the tracks work out to $2.45 each.

Value and versatility.

I'm just one guy's opinion, and others have chimed in, but the more opinions you can get the better.

One option that I'm looking at combines the two approaches by giving the user a "virtual wallet" of $'s. You can fill your wallet with, say, $12 of credit for a $10 cash purchase, $25 of credit for a $20 cash purchase, etc. Then when you make a purchase, you spend from your virtual wallet.

A system like that would let us keep a single "price" on each item, without mixing credits versus cash and risking confusion, while still allowing for a direct purchase where desired.

What do you think?

Another vote for singles. I'm listening.

Here is an idea of others credit purchase system (if you don't already know, but this is kind of what they are talking about). $3 per track if you just buy individually. As low as $1.40 per track in the higher $$ packs.

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Oh and add the ability to pay with PayPal. I use this on all of the sites I buy from.

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That's a well-done chart, and easy to understand. Also, we do have Paypal enabled on the site.

Thanks for the feedback!

I didn't see the PayPal option when I just tried to purchase a download? This is only what comes up credit card or voucher code

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Wrong site, brah. http://karaokecloud.net/

Oh nevermind, I just noticed I was on the old download site karaokeclouddownloads.com - should add PayPal option to that one

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I appreciate your efforts to bring legal karaoke back but PLEASE adopt the
KISS business model - Keep it simple stupid.

A credit is a credit forever(or as long as you stay in business)

One credit = 1 song in however many formats the KJ wants to download it. Period.
Perpetual online availability to re-download purchased songs without further cost.

No stupid, complicated, marketing games ie "Normal 4 credits per song price is reduced to 3 credits per song on 2nd Tuesday of 3rd month of a year that has a full moon falling on a Tuesday". This is just BS smoke and mirrors to your customers and tells them how little you value them.

Promotions are handled EXCLUSIVELY by changing the price per credit. The purchasing power of a credit no matter how much it was originally purchased for stays the same - 1 song.

Customers buy their desired number of credits and use them at their discretion.

Any other business model will not fly with the pro KJ when your competitors already offer this model.

Yeah I caught that after the fact. So right now there are no individual downloads available - correct?

What is the other site? karaokeclouddownloads.com where you can individually buy single downloads?

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Correct, but if I can find a force multiplier that lets me more easily manage thousands and thousands of products, I'm going to offer singles there. I've got solutions for getting the single products onto the site in a fairly efficient manner, but quality control testing to make sure each one is ingested properly, and for managing them once they're up, is going to be a real bear.

We'll also answer the demand for plain backgrounds like you see on http://www.karaokeclouddownloads.com.

I like the concept. I'd like to see what where the single track pricing ends up. Keep in mind, someone like me will sometimes put $40 in the wallet and turn around and spend it all. This does simplify things. You'll need to be creative in your pricing. A 50 song pack should have more value per track than the single track purchase. That is a given. But the single track purchase could be just as big or bigger than the 50 song pack. There is added value here, even if I pay more per track, because the price per USABLE track is still much greater than the 50 song pack. Let me know if that doesn't make sense...

I thought of another value in having as many packs as possible. I may look at a 50 song Elvis pack. I may not buy the pack but I may find 20 songs I purchase just because I was reminded of them in the pack. I do that three times and I have 60 songs I am purchasing. I do this quite often. I'll go through several artist listings and pick 20 songs and buy them all at the same time. I am pinpointing my needs this way.

Maybe you could offer the same virtual wallet at both sites?

The older site needs several modifications if you keep that as your primary singles site. Previews and detailed receipts (It's covered! Don't beat the dead horse)

Or the better solution is to make Karaokecloud.com the streaming site and make this new site the song purchase site. You can advertise and link between the sites. That makes the most sense to me.

Makes perfect sense. We'd want to make sure our pricing delivers at least the same value as the competition, within the limits of licensing.

I like what you said about the purchasing triggers from the packages. I need to make sure all those song lists have direct links to the singles when they're input.

It might be helpful to visit the sites of your successful competition and purchase a credit or a track or two so you can understand the process that draws business rather than trying to reinvent it.
It will also make you sound more like you understand your own business when you don't have to ask questions about how credits work.
The knowledge gained will be worth the ten dollar investment.

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Links would be awesome! Have it open a new page or provide quick access back to the prior page. Make navigation simple and intuitive. The key to success is the path of least resistance.

And you can STILL use this model for your current packs. For example, you are currently selling different digital albumns with twenty songs on it. Under the 1 credit = 1 song system, that means that 1 digital album costs twenty credits

have a packages of 500 or 1000 songs for the kj just starting out? it would be 500 and 1000 credits respectively.

edit: i just remembered these are HD videos, so if you want to charge more for the HD that's fine, you'd just increase the price of a credit back and still stick to the scheme above.

I usually wait for the Black Friday sale on credits to buy mine. It would also be nice to have a "special" on KJMediaPro credits too

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