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I love it when the techno snobs insult people and they don't even realize it. Comparing someone who still uses last years technology to animals that have been EXTINCT for 60 MILLION years. From a customer's point of view, the karaoke experoience is no different no matter how the KJ plays his music. Most of the newer computer KJs are pirates to begin with and they tend to skimp on equipment as well as their library. I'd rather go to a disc based show that has a host that bought quality equipment to separate him from the rest of the pack when every KJ had to pay top dollar for his music library than go to a show where the host bought a loaded hard drive for $500 and bought the cheapest cordless mics that he could find, that constantly feed back and a pair of used Radio Shack speakers at a yard sale.. to go with the Voco Pro amp that he found at a pawn shop that he is ever so proud of becauise it has the word PRO in the name of it. My neighbor's '65 Corvette might be considered obsolete by some but Many people would give their right arm to own it.

Why would anyone want a car with a carburetor instead of fuel injection?

What is kwizoke???

Who sells hard drive for that much?

Not picking on you Bruce but, All NASCAR cars have to have a carburetor in accordance with the rules.

Most old time racers prefer a carb. as they don't have to worry about a computer failure while racing.

I know I did.

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Cue, like myself, I was wondering too! Is there really such a word as kwizoke? Yes! They’re all over – well not here but in the uk.
http://www.kwizoke.co.uk/38.html
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kwizoke-Karao ... 0430971003

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NO OFFENSE TAKEN. You kind of helped to prove my point. A BILLION dollar industry is still using what many consider to be an outdated technology.

actually, the odd part is the cheapest corded mics and radioshack speakers are what most of the ODB hosts i have seen use. sure, there are a few exceptions, but i have seen more cheap gear from the ODB hosts (they also tend to have only the SBG and MM libraries). if you do it right, ODB or HD based is all good.

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Thank you for that. OK... it sounds like it's a hard drive loaded with x number of song tracks.

As far as DVD players being removed from laptops, it is already happening. None of the higher-end laptops have DVDs any more, they weigh too much. (And that doesn't even count the 30% of laptop sales cannibalized by tablets.) In 2 years, they'll be pretty much gone.

That being said, USB-based DVD and CD will be available indefinitely....

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It's settled then.....

You're not a real KJ unless you are doing karaoke on Vinyl with song sheets.

Hmmm....does vinyl + Virtual Vinyl/Virtual DJ count? Do you get bonus points for playing on a hand-crank Victrola?

Welcome to the digital age, everyone! No offense, but some of you guys are about 5-6 years late to the party!

You can resist change, but it is happening all around you, like it or not! Don't get left behind! Dinosaurs might be a cute novelty, but last I checked, they're pretty much all dead

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C Mc
KJ, FL

I have always wondered why computer hosts would even care if someone is a disc host and why they feel compelled to call them names????

You guys crack me up.

Just because your friend still uses floppies or some artist released a vinyl record for nostalgia/novelty purposes doesnt mean it isn't obsolete technology.

Because if you're not doing it THEIR WAY; you must be doing it wrong. I know a disc based host who bought a new karaoke machine that accepts a USB thumb drive. No one has brought one in yet but plenty of people are still bringing in discs to his show. Not much of a dinosaur around here. There are plenty of laptop karaoke shows around here as well. Most of them advertise that they have every song ever made for karaoke and that is the reason they don't proint out ANY books. You have no chance of stumbling across a great song because they don't have anything for you to browse their collection with. If they were to print out a book with all of their songs, it would have to be done like an encyclopedia. Could you imagine the size of the book if it had to contain 300,000 songs? I remember back in the day when a KJ had a big book with only 10,000 songs. Now multipply that by 30 and you wind up with a book for each letter of the alphabet. Kiosks become a very tidy option; especially for the KJs with hundreds of thousands of songs

I didn't mean to call anyone names. If your disc-based show is thriving, more power to you. New technology is, however, by definition, overall better for the largest # of users.

My intended message was more like what Bazza said.

The technology doesn't care if you resist it or not, it keeps moving forward, and AT SOME POINT, old, outdated technology is just a novelty.

So, you either hop on board, or AT SOME POINT (might not be today), you are simply just nostalga. There's a time and a place for nostalga, but 999 times out of 1000, you simply CAN NOT argue that the outdated technology is overall better for more people than updated technology. If it were, the majority of people would still be buying/using the old stuff!

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C Mc
KJ, FL

The only difference between a PC based show and a disc based show is a bit of convenience for the host. If everything else is the same at a given venue, ie. speakers, microphones, library; the karaoke singer (customer) couldn't care less how the KJ runs the show. The only argument comes from the computer based KJ trying to tout his show as being better somehow in hopes of denegrating his competition so he might get a gig over the disc based operator. As a karaoke singer, I prefer it when I walk in and see that the host is a disc based karaoke KJ because I KNOW that I, as a customer, will be able to sing whatever songs that I have brought with me without some KJ complaining about what a hassle it is for him to load a disc into his MTU software. I never seem to get that reaction from a disc based host, so maybe the laptop KJ is LESS and not MORE when it comes to providing CUSTOMER SERVICE. Of course now someone always brings up the argument about someone bringing in a Pioneer Laser Disc. My opinion on that is very few people EVER OWNED a Pioneer Laser Disc. They were very expensive and a big part of the reason that karaoke hosts were paid much more when Laser disc karaoke came out. If I were doing a show and someone came in with a laser disc, I would inform the customer that I didn't have a Laser Disc player as they haven't made a karaoke Laser Disc in close to twenty years. The sane thing goes for karaoke VHS and Karaoke cassettes. They are still making plenty of Karaoke CD+G discs and in my opinion, every KJ should have a device or a computer that can play them without having to copy them. I would also tell the customers who came in with those 3 older formats that I would do my best to accomodate them; even if I had to make the songs from scratch for them if they would leave their disc/tape/cassette with me for a day or two. I have a Laser Disc player, a VCR, a cassette deck and a video capture device at home and I would take it as a fun challenge to satisfy a potential regular customer. If the CD+G format is still being sold by many large retailers and many Karaoke CD+G players are being sold to many home users to practice with, how can this format be concsidered dead in the water? Is every parent now expected to buy a laptop to play karaoke at their house and all of the bits and pieces to hook it up to their home sound system so little Sally can sing Taylor swift songs? I don't think so. The karaoke machine and karaoke Discs will be around for quite some time.

Does this seem like a product that is obsolete?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... 50&bih=459

-Chris

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-Chris

...yup. One of the death nells for any given adult tech product is when they become cheap enough to be toys

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C Mc
KJ, FL

It most certainly does. You can buy a 78rpm phonograph stylus on Amazon too.

Just because it is available, doesnt mean it isn't obsolete technology.

I know what you mean about people bringing in their own discs because other kj's cannot/will not. I agree keep on doing what you are doing.
Once the computer is built there is no worrying about anything - that takes a couple hours maybe - no time lost promoting. And I can upgrade pieces parts if I choose without having to buy a new player.
The sound issues? I guarantee you would not be able to tell I was running computer if you came to my show. It's all in the sound equipment (yes the sound card is part of the sound equipment - just like any other piece of gear, mp3 based music can be distinguished with cheap cards) and how it's all mixed and eq'd.
Glitches? I had discs skip, glitch and garble graphics for more often than I ever had with computer based.

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