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Brian A
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:40 pm |
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BruceFan4Life wrote: One of the most popular songs at the shows that I frequent is DELILAH by Tom Jones. The audience participation is off the charts. It was sung last night by someone and the crowd had it's usual response. Clapping and cheering for the stabbing of a woman who cheated on her man. Now I know this is no comaprison to some idiot killing innocent people, mostly young children, but we, as a society, seem to be ok with certain kinds of violenece in our music. Goodbye Earl also comes to mind.
If someone gets stabbed by a jealous lover, are people going to remove DELILAH from their song books?
I recorded "Tears In Heaven" for the Singers Showcase yesterday, Adults, children. Adults, children. Is the difference really so hard to comprehend? The line must be drawn somewhere. The kids in Sandy Hook Elementary School were slaughtered. Strong enough word for you guys? I have young grandkids of my own, same age, as the victims (6, 7, 8 innocent years) No words can describe how their parents are feeling, knowing their beloved children were victims of tragic unspeakable violence. I’m not removing Delilah song & the like; we know better. I am deleting songs involving violence against young children! Jeeezz!
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CostaKaraoke
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:07 pm |
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First of all, my deepest and heartfelt condolences to all the families of the children and the families associated with this carnage. Your gun laws surely now have to be questioned? We in Europe do not understand the USA love affair with fire arms?http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... world-list
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Brian A
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:17 pm |
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CostaKaraoke wrote: First of all, my deepest and heartfelt condolences to all the families of the children and the families associated with this carnage. Your gun laws surely now have to be questioned? We in Europe do not understand the USA love affair with fire arms?http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... world-list With all due respect, we have a factual saying here in the good ol’ USA. “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people”. So you see, love affair with guns or not, it really doesn’t matter. People matter!
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CostaKaraoke
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:20 pm |
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From one Brian to another Brian....Read the stats!!!
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Brian A
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:47 pm |
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Brian, I know the stats. It’s higher here than in Europe & I’m not denying that fact. I will not get into politics regarding this issue as I see it’s moot at this point.
It's a sad state of affairs when we read in the news that we had yet another mass shooting. Yes, guns were involved committed by one person. I agree. A large part of that ugliness involves how easy it is to obtain firearms. Unfortunately, it’s not the gun’s fault that it falls into the hands of crazies & lunatics.
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Lonman
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:33 pm |
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BruceFan4Life wrote: One of the most popular songs at the shows that I frequent is DELILAH by Tom Jones. The audience participation is off the charts. It was sung last night by someone and the crowd had it's usual response. Clapping and cheering for the stabbing of a woman who cheated on her man. Now I know this is no comaprison to some idiot killing innocent people, mostly young children, but we, as a society, seem to be ok with certain kinds of violenece in our music. Goodbye Earl also comes to mind. Interesting thing on Delilah - on the Pioneer video version - Kato Kaelin was the actor who played the guy who stabbed his girlfriend, long before the OJ situation.
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CostaKaraoke
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:39 pm |
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When is the time right to discuss the USA gun laws? the USA (not a 3rd world nation) needs to do something NOW! Don't defend your current legislation because it's always been in place. FACT, if this guy would have gone into the school armed with a knife he might have killed 1 and injured a few others. I'm looking at these poor children now, as a father I feel totally devastated at what these parents must be feeling. This weekend I will dedicate specially to the poor children and family.
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Brian A
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:11 pm |
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CostaKaraoke wrote: When is the time right to discuss the USA gun laws? the USA (not a 3rd world nation) needs to do something NOW! Don't defend your current legislation because it's always been in place. FACT, if this guy would have gone into the school armed with a knife he might have killed 1 and injured a few others. I'm looking at these poor children now, as a father I feel totally devastated at what these parents must be feeling. This weekend I will dedicate specially to the poor children and family. Defending?? Really? Look here, Brain, I mean Brian. It’s been known.………….Never mind. Whatever! I hereby refrain from any further comment as I already mentioned above I refuse to discuss the politics of the matter. It’s not a sign of submission nor am I agreeing with you. I’m just afraid the consequence would only drive us into this sort of thing. A never ending discussion. You can take the high road & I’ll rest my case. Have a nice day!
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Lord Burnstrum
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:30 pm |
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Brian, I have carefully read and re-read your replies to myself and to BruceFan4Life, and I have tried to see where you're coming from... BUT, to me it smacks slightly of "Songs advocating violence towards children are not acceptable, but songs advocating violence towards adults are". Personally, I am against violence in any form, but not to the point of banning music that happens to mention it - that would be censorship taken too far.
Clearly this is a subject you feel very strongly about, and we maybe should agree to disagree on it. I predicted I would get hung out to dry for my previous post (which was not directly aimed at you, but everyone who had posted to the effect of deleting songs as a knee jerk reaction), but that is my own opinion, nothing more, nothing less. Since I don't know you from Adam, it certainly wouldn't be my place to judge you or your karaoke show based entirely on a few segments of text in cyberspace.
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johnny reverb
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:38 am |
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CostaKaraoke wrote: From one Brian to another Brian....Read the stats!!! Do you know that when a law enforcement officer kills a criminal during a crime, it goes into those statistics? If a home owner shoots an invader, as any shooting in self defense, goes into those statistics. Do you think he couldn't have done at least as much carnage, with an suv on a crowded play ground....or maybe a few 5 gallon cans of gasoline. With the children cornered in a walled classroom, he could have done just as much with a butter knife. We recently had police officers in Chicago kill a man for comming at them with a butter knife, "justified"....so it must be possible. One thing is certain....this crazy SOB, should have never had access to even a butter knife. Strange statistic, most American soldiers in Afganistan are killed by IEDs, not bullets. There must be at least a million 6th graders in our country, that could whip one up, without even using a bit of gun powder, and kill many people with it.....but they don't.......people kill people, not guns, not knives, not IEDS........now bodies of water, swimming pools, cars, machinery, and lots of other things can do the job without any human help.
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:07 pm |
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i don't won a gun, but i see the problem differently. these tragedies never happen at a police station, at an NRA meeting, or anywhere else besides places that ban guns. we all know the tired old "if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns", but our friend in the U.K. has shown just that. the citizens may not have guns, but you can bet the criminals do (mafia aside), criminals have proven that if they want something, they can get it. just look at the batman shooting, that was all SWAT gear he had...WHT did he get that? but by only going into places that laws are taking away the citizens right to have a gun (gun free zones) means the criminal has no resistance. it is much more appealing to try this crap in a place where no one will shoot back because you KNOW you are the only one with a weapon. most would think twice before trying this if there were armed people in the building, may no stop them, but they would think twice. and just like the batman shooting and the other school shootings, if the guns were not banned there, he might not have tried it at all and if he did, one...maybe two shots fired before someone took him out saving lots of lives. the teachers were truly brave in the situation, but they were limited to being sacrificial fish in a barrel, when the only gun on the premises is in the hands of the one who wants to kill you, what can you do?
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johnny reverb
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:39 pm |
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People in England are of a different nature, they have less crime because people kill people, and they have a fewer percentage of people that kill people......not because of their gun laws. It's that simple.
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CostaKaraoke
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:13 pm |
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It seems your president thinks changes need to be made re gun laws. Bout time...............
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CostaKaraoke
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:57 pm |
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Quote: seems like your country is in pretty bad shape, matter of fact Never said it wasn't but in what way do you mean? Quote: you may end up seeing things happening in your country you never dreamed possible...... UGH!! Quote: probably best to start worrying about your own problems, Thats rich coming from an American, policing the world comes to mind.
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Lonman
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:31 am |
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Don't include us all in those statements!
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CostaKaraoke
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:40 am |
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Quote: Don't include us all in those statements! Not at all Lonman. I have the greatest respect for Americans. I spent a couple of years in a band touring American bases in Germany, we had a great time and the American soldiers made us feel very welcome.
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johnny reverb
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:42 am |
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CostaKaraoke wrote: Quote: seems like your country is in pretty bad shape, matter of fact Never said it wasn't but in what way do you mean? Quote: you may end up seeing things happening in your country you never dreamed possible...... UGH!! Quote: probably best to start worrying about your own problems, Thats rich coming from an American, policing the world comes to mind. personally, I'm an isolationist, and as far as I'm concerned, you and the rest of Europe could be speaking German right now.....
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leopard lizard
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:50 am |
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Something that was meant to be in memory of some innocents sure turned mean.
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Brian A
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:10 am |
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I think CostaKaraoke & a few with provocative comments took this thread way down south. Just saying.....
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