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Oh for the love of all that's good. So many people have so much to say about well known artists. All of them are just high flyers because we made them that way.
I won't sing this, I won't allow that....(bla, bla bla)

How about cleaning up your front porch first before going of on Cat Stevens, or the Beatles. (Hmmmmmmmm they were really bad. Remember som of John Lennon's statements???)

People should look at their own lives first before looking at other. What have you done to be such a wonderful person? Ignored your parents or treated them like dirt at some point in life? How have you raised your kids? Were you always the model parent, friend, husband/wife?
For crying out loud, nobody is perfect (although a certain person from this forum does fit that description you know who you are)

Let people sing what they want, as long as it's within the limits set by the bar/pub/club owner/managerment. You are the karaoke host, and hosting is your job, you're not a political/moral decision maker.

Nobody mentioned EMINEM, the little piece of c*** that couldn't say enough bad things about his mother.

Hey AllStar,

Quit beating around the bush and tell us what you really think

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Too soon old......too late smart.

FYI

AllStar,

Thanx for clarifying that for me. You really need to learn to speak up and stop being so shy

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Too soon old......too late smart.

Just curious Knightshow I was at another show and some body sang Adidas and to be honest I'd never really listened to it. My Kj buddy took it out of his book. Later I checked to see if I had it which I do and listened to it again. At the time I had a gig in a small club and betwwen 8 & 9 I had kids singing one in particular little Gabriel (5 years old) Most of the time he wore a vest and tie (he took his karaoke very serious and I love him dearly) I forget which bebop he would sing but it would make me cringe He didnt know what it was about he just liked the beat. I debated about Adidas and it's still in my book but it's hard to keep up with what's coming out I spend $50-=$100/mo. getting new stuff & for the last 10 years the first time I hear a song it's at karaoke..

So thanks for the input Knightshow it was a viable serious question on my part. I dont believe in censorship but I gotta take care of my kids.....

So I suppose then nobody cares that it's Cat's birthday today.

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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"

I don't blame you in the slightest.

On my Family Karaoke gig I had, I wouldn't let Clint Eastwood - "Gorillas" get played either, nor some other racier tunes. Eminem was out as well... as was the more harsh Kid Rock stuff. Not censorship, but just being a father and someone that was playing to kids!! I don't consider that censorship once you can make your own legal decisions. The minors in that family bar were NOT of legal age to do that.

Now, on their own, I'm certain they listen to thatl and a lot more... but that's their FAMILY's job to be an editor! !

My son isn't allowed to listen to The Insane Clown Possee in my house, but I know he's got several of their cds!

Oy!!

So getting back to the karaoke part of this... it's impossible to know all the bad songs out there... but if you queue it up and suddenly something comes out that you don't want out, excercise the ol' STOP button!

I heard Osama popped out of the cake and they danced a jig together.

Now that's funny...

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"It's Only Music"

I couldn't disagree more.

It's a parent's job to know what their kids are listening to, and put their foot down if they have to. I'm not talking Black Sabbath either, although in our day, they were pretty harsh for the times... but the music that's available for the kids nowadays can be very racy, ugly, and just not fit for a youngster's ears!

I haven't seen a more irresponsible post in months.

Signed,

A concerned, caring parent that DOES let their kids listen to music.

To get back to the original post, I don't hear anybody saying anything bad about Cat Stevens' music and no suggestion that it is subversive in any way.

What he has chosen in life AFTER his music career does not affect his music and I, for one, can easily seperate the two.

McCarthyism still rules? I hope not!

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Imagine!

I'm writing this from an Songwriter's standpoint as well as a musician's stand point....

The material was and still is some of the most classic poetry & music ever written. I recently watched a satellite television taped replay of a show of "Cat Stevens" that was taped some time in the late 70's. and he did approximately 7 songs or so acoustically with an accopyment. I was sincerely impressed. it was pure artistry.. whatever his personal beliefs maybe, they should not be impacting his airplay, or who should play his material. people who do that just are showing how closed headed they really are.

Music is "art" just as you would go out and sing your own original songs or be free to be allowed to have the "right" to sing in an establishment or your own private home. To censor an artist is like taking a singer's right away to sing without due process.. here in the US read your constitution..

Ya just can't do that very easily without the risk of being sued.

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Brian D.
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When a singer puts their political views on the chopping block, they should be prepared for people to judge them. Recently at a Linda Rondstadt concert, she was commenting how she thought Michael Moore was a "great patriot"... and she was consequently booed off the stage, people began a small riot, etc.

She was honestly flabbergasted... but then in a followup interview said that when she would go to concerts, she didn't like finding out about an artists political views if it was different than her own.

I got some advice for these singers. JUST SHUT THE HELL UP AND SING ALREADY! I could care less what a celebrity believes. They often live in their own manufactured world and are very opinionated. Well, so am I, but you don't see me pushing it down people's faces over a megawatt system!

SHEESH already!

Matt..

I have worked with many artists and around many very talented engineers.. I do hold the right to be opinionated.

I'm going to leave it at that.

This discussion is closed. I'm not going to continue this fight in public.
You missed my point AGAIN. If you wish to discuss this further.

Only you PM me personally.

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Brian D.
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I don't totally agree.

I mean we all have the right to censor our own environments as we see fit. Art, like life isn't black and white we all respond to art differently based on our own experience. Some choose to censor based on religious beliefs or based on political beliefs or racist beliefs or what ever criteria we are passionate about. There is not one person in this world who I share every belief with It's not possible to find someone who believes exactly the way I do on every issue. I hope I never find someone like that........how boring would that be???? Cat Steven's artistic ability alone is not enough to give him a free ride in this world. Unfortunately we hold people in entertainment up too high as it is. Could I be friends with him???? I don't know, I've never met him. Do I agree with his politics????? Maybe, I dont know what they are. Do I agree with his religion. I don't agree with anyone's religion. Do I like his music????? most of it, yes.... all of it, no. But I will sing his songs and listen to them if I choose. My personal choice. When you buy clothes or shoes do you make sure they weren't made in some sweat shop by a poor child chained to a table. chances are they were. Most are. You can't possibley know the people you buy music from you only know their image and beleiveme that is probably not even close to the truth.

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Too soon old......too late smart.

I'm NOT arguing with you Brian, nor do I feel the need to open up a private conversation on the subject. I am opinionated too, but the moment you make a spectacle out of yourself over a microphone, you are asking to be judged.

That's what makes the good ol' USA great... the right to differ in opinion. But when you begin to announce it publicly, you're going to get a backlash.

If you make political statements in music, it's going to be judged. Well, in fact, ANY music or artform is judged, but when you make it a political thing, it draws even more attention.

This whole thing reminds me of how people overreacted about the whole Michael Jackson thing. If he's guilty of what he's accused of, fine... but that doesn't change his status as a pop icon of the 80s!!!

I have his music in my book, same with the Dixie Chicks, Cat Stevens, Dan Folgelberg, George Harrison (and subsequently the Beatles) or whoever else has been drawn under fire for words that they have done, or their actions.

Now, would I allow Michael to babysit my kids?? NO! But like that would ever be a real option! ! However, when he sang "Thriller", I loved it then, and I love it nowadays!

People give FARrrrrrr too much attention to celebrities and their "status" than is really appropriate. They entertain me... that's it. I happen to love Tom Cruise movies, but I think the guy is kinda a ditz in real life. So are many celebs!

Matt

P.S. BJC, it's all good. It's just my opinion as a parent. What they do after they turn 18 and are out of the house or legally adults is really up to them. I can be concerned, but I DO control what happens in MY house... STILL no ICP in here! ! Peace yourself.

But Matt,
Would ya allow Ozzy to babysit your kids??

Remember he bit the head off a bat... and ya have that in your music too.

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Brian D.
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