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Onece a song is out and bought and paid for it is out of thier control. But if the song is still on the hd unbought, perhaps they are able to block that song from being unlocked, dunno?

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I don't see how. Especially if the content can be copied to another hard drive. Since nothing has to be connected to the internet to unlock.

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You are kidding right? There is no difference at all when it comes to songs books. Those songs are available for patrons to sing. Whether they are owned, leased, on CD, on a disk, locked or unlocked is none of their concern. I would want to print ALL the 11,000 KJ-Pro locked songs in my books or kiosk so that my patrons know they can sing them if they want. Then if they put it on a slip, it gets unlocked.

Don't get me wrong, I love CH and will sing it's praises. But they have dropped the ball on Fast Tracks, especially since they charge for updates.

[NEWS FLASH! - A FastTracks "interim update" was just released that adds the GEM listings! Coincidence? ]

Looks like the ball may have been picked up!

[quote="Bazza"][quote="tbreen"]There is quite a difference between the GEM series and KJ Media Pro! You either OWN the discs included with the different GEM series, or NOT! With Kj Media Pro, the selections are AVAILABLE to you, you don't own them until you selectively purchase each one. So what good would a listing in FT do, are you going to OWN all 11,000+ songs? If KJ Media Pro was a fixed selection such as the GEM series, or for that matter ANY CDROM based collection, then yes, they could, and should be available in FT. But this is NOT the case.[/quote]

You are kidding right? There is no difference at all when it comes to songs books. Those songs are [i]available[/i] for patrons to sing. Whether they are owned, leased, on CD, on a disk, locked or unlocked is none of their concern. I would want to print ALL the 11,000 KJ-Pro locked songs in my books or kiosk so that my patrons know they can sing them if they want. Then if they put it on a slip, it gets unlocked.

Don't get me wrong, I love CH and will sing it's praises. But they have dropped the ball on Fast Tracks, especially since they charge for updates.

[color=#BF0040][NEWS FLASH! - A FastTracks "interim update" was just released that adds the GEM listings! Coincidence? ][/color]

Looks like the ball may have been picked up![/quote]

They have not dropped the ball at all. You simply export ALL of the CB listings from the KJMP drive as CSV, then import into FT. Wah lah...you can now show your patrons all 11K + lisitings (and unlock as needed).

When did Fastracks start charging for updates. I get mine free when I bought the software, I had the option to get unlimited updates and i did (now granted it was a onetime upcharge) and the cost was (if memory serves me right it was $29.00.

How did CB drop the ball? The songs i have added are exported from Compuhost out to Fastracks for printing, no problem?

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Sure, you can ALWAYS do it all yourself...manually. But they offer an Auto Update subscription service that is supposed to be a quick, easy, one click entry and until Monday night, the GEM series was not part of that service. The KJ-Pro still isn't.

I guess you are saying the $39 annual subscription is pointless and I tend to agree. I had assumed that the FT auto-update service would save me time, and things like Genre's, Duets, would already be pre-coded so I could easily print, say a "Broadway" or "Country" book. They are not. Save the money and just import yourself as described above as the service really doesn't do much more than that.

So, let me re-phrase. They have dropped the ball on the Auto Update subscription service which they claim is "The most accurate and comprehensive songbase in the industry".



Not sure, but there is no such thing as unlimited now...you only get 90 days with purchase.
http://www.karaokeware.com/autoupdate.html

They had better uphold my lifetime subscription or I am dropping them and going with Music Book Deluxe.

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thanks you so much for post)

Yeah Danny, I did that too, not sure why anyone would think you have to keep paying.

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Not sure how they dropped the ball. But sounds like he wants to have a listing of the entire hard drive song content to list in the book (before unlocking) - not just the songs that were unlocked, so if any of the unlocked songs are picked to sing, he'll unlock & play accordingly. Not just listing the unlocked songs only.

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You are hereby my official translator. Evidently I am speaking another language.

I posted on invicion's forum about the lifetime subscription issue and according to them I still have mine. I wonder if it is only offered to those when they first buy Fast Tracks.

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From within CompuHost you have the option of exporting the lisiting of the entire KJMP drive as CSV. Which is what I am doing. I imported that list into my book. And whatever song is requested that I don't have I will unlock during the show.

Update on the subscription issue. Because the agency that deals with credit cards decided to not allow the unlimited subscription, Invicion no longer does lifetime subscriptions. They however will honor those who signed up for it before the change in policy.

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Well that sucks, just not for me! Sorry guys, they need to change that back, just not right!

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I find it hard to believe that they would let a credit card processor tell them how to run their business. I am thinking it had everything to do with selling more subscriptions.

That was my exact thought as well.

If it come down to the cc processing company I'm sure there are other cc processors that would be more than willing to accommodate them and be more than happy for the additional business.

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Credit card companies don't care what your business is or how it is run as long as they can collect their percentage.... it's all smoke and mirrors again.... yawn....

Credit card company excuse make absolutely no sense. As far the the CCC is concerned it is a one time charge....does not matter what it was for.

Well once again, these forums prove to be an abundant wealth of MISINFORMATION! (Always by the same misinformed posters, we all know who they are!)

I contacted a friend that works in credit card fraud control. He confirmed what they said. Companies that offer any type of lifetime product or service pose an increased risk to credit card issuers, since if they were to go out of business, the issuers could be left holding the bag. He referred to it as the Contingent Liability Risk. Much higher discount fees are imposed on companies offering lifetime service, some as much as 3x the rate. So if CH decided to eliminate the service to reduce their fees, that's their choice! By the way, they were the only ones offering it, and they probably offered it as long as they could.