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karaoQ
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:59 pm |
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c. staley wrote: karaoQ wrote: Alan, much like I wouldn't allow the over 150 accounts online or onboarding our platform ACROSS THE UNITED STATES to make blanket statements like "We are using karaoQ and the 360 product suite. Anyone who doesn't is clueless. - Michael Amburgey Proud to be CEO / Co-Founder of karaoQ Uh... excuse me.... Why isn't a SINGLE ONE of the "over 150 accounts" represented here? Not one.... No testimonial... No nothing.... The only ones screaming and yelling that everyone needs to buy are the 3 or so that are selling it.
Time to invent a few customers because I want to question them... and ask them how it works, what kinds of crowds they have, without the sales staff getting in the way or speaking for them. Pony up boys... or shut up. Oh, and one other thing: These customers must be "verifiable." If they aren't and the sellers are hiding anything for any reason then it really must not be worth a poop. BTW Joe V: Your second "sea of change" (or "tsunami from hell") was when you lost 25% of your library. Might explain why your "avant garde company" doesn't give receipts... and YOU and DG and Micheal A. have ignored that subject every single time it is brought up and asked. So why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of any of you? It appears as though you are all hiding something... or lying about something somewhere... or maybe ..... both. The text testimonials will be on the site we launch during the Karaoke Summit. We also have interviews from people in the music industry (including a Living Legend award winner and former major label exec, and an EVP of Digital Marketing from another label) -- all working with us. As well, there will be 4-5 interviews done from VERIFIABLE KJs from different parts of the country with different karaoke show formats, business formats, and demographic make-ups that have already filmed their interviews. You want verifiable proof? Tune in. Their names, the names of their companies and geographic location are all in the lower-third of the videos talking about how they are using the karaoQ platform.
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Paradigm Karaoke
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:01 pm |
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c. staley wrote: The only ones screaming and yelling that everyone needs to buy are the 3 or so that are selling it.
Time to invent a few customers because I want to question them... and ask them how it works, what kinds of crowds they have, without the sales staff getting in the way or speaking for them. Pony up boys... or shut up. this was already offered, you just have to ask. read everything before yelling at him to do something he already did. c. staley wrote: Oh, and one other thing: These customers must be "verifiable." If they aren't and the sellers are hiding anything for any reason then it really must not be worth a poop. agree. they can't be "InsaneKJ" with no shows and hiding in the shadows. a real advertised weekly show at a regular venue, not some casino or hotel where building a following won't happen anyway. c. staley wrote: Might explain why your "avant garde company" doesn't give receipts... and YOU and DG and Micheal A. have ignored that subject every single time it is brought up and asked. So why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of any of you? already handled http://karaokescene.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=32044, though it took waaaaayyyyy too long to do so, it is finally happening. viewtopic.php?f=35&t=32044It appears as though you are all hiding something... or lying about something somewhere... or maybe ..... both.[/quote] take a breath, put the claws away. this amount of venom is overkill for what is happening.
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rickgood
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:25 pm |
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karaoQ,
Do you have any venues who are running the platform as a DIY option, in other words, using their venue staff to run the karaoke show. It seems like this type of environment would lend itself to that concept. I'd be interested if your research showed that to be a viable possibility, given that the venue could save substantial money over hiring a third-party KJ to come in and run the show. Using a fairly inexpensive sound system and the Digitrax content, seems like this would be a natural direction to the venue owner to both save money/make more money and control the show to their own specifications.
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c. staley
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:30 pm |
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I'm not putting any claws away when I have to wade through the fudge-factory they're putting out: karaoQ wrote: The text testimonials will be on the site we launch during the Karaoke Summit. We also have interviews from people in the music industry (including a Living Legend award winner and former major label exec, and an EVP of Digital Marketing from another label) -- all working with us. As well, there will be 4-5 interviews done from VERIFIABLE KJs from different parts of the country with different karaoke show formats, business formats, and demographic make-ups that have already filmed their interviews.
You want verifiable proof? Tune in. Their names, the names of their companies and geographic location are all in the lower-third of the videos talking about how they are using the karaoQ platform. " TEXT testimonials?" That's bulls*** in a cup... I can write one myself. "have interviews?" So what? That's nothing.... means nothing... we're not that stupid. "award winner this and former major label exec and an EVP..." Bill Cosby was an award winner too.. and so was O.J. Simpson and Bernie Madoff... doesn't mean they know the north end of a moose from the south end. I live in Motown... have any idea how many "award winners" will jump at the chance to have an interview with anything and anyone that will talk to them and let them stick their face in a camera? All of them. And they'll say whatever you want..... as long as there is a camera in the equation. "Former" anything means "has been" and that's all. What the hell is a "EVP?" EX-Vice President? Probably an ex for a reason. I don't give a squat about your contrived "summit interviews" with anyone because that's just a set up sales pitch and you know it. karaoQ wrote: You want verifiable proof? Tune in. Their names, the names of their companies and geographic location are all in the lower-third of the videos talking about how they are using the karaoQ platform. You really do think we're as stupid as a brick don't you? Another shot for you to say "tune in?" I want verifiable proof from KJ's that are NOT part of your summit. According to you there are LOTS of them... Don't post their names on your website, do it here.. Don't spend anytime coaching them what to say either. I don't know about you folks, but these guys seem to me like the slimiest group of evasive snakes to ever slither out of Nashville and the Chartbuster Cesspool. Used car salesman... and not even good ones. Graduates of "SSB" and that might seem harsh to you but I take sidestepping and double-talk as they have done as a sign of insulting dishonesty. If I was going to go this "automated way," I'd buy Toqer's system..... out of spite. It's been around longer, has all the bugs worked out and he's not an (@$%!)... .
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Sqwigee
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:46 pm |
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It's obvious from the summit of '13,they don't think... They know that they are reaching out to a bunch of money grubbing pirates & that their numbers matter the most, as does their money. This bribery scheme is clearly an attempt to get more revenue from a previous sale/current subscription customer, because they seem to be okay with a society that ignores the human factor in doing business with other humans, in favor of viewing every other person (maybe even their own family) as walking batteries to power their own personal money making machines. At least they're coloring it as if they are getting money through us, for us, instead of just suing for money, by twisting definitions & laws, making it seem as though they are righteous & we aren't. Out of control capitalism IS what's wrong with our once democratic system: people can't survive on minimum wage, but that is the wage that is mostly available - a cost of living increase is instituted, but heartless CEO's can only see that their profit margins are affected. But instead of thinking that any profit margin is still a profit & that the rest of the human race needs some of the resources they're sucking up, when they over compensate for wages people could actually live off of, further compounding the problem. It is this attitude that is a problem & ultimately what they expect to train new singers & KJ's to accept & sell as an acceptable axiom, when in reality 99% of our society, are waking up & pushing back against! The first time I saw a jukebox with an optional karaoke feature, I had the same sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach, as when I saw a big popular push towards home karaoke systems, but none of those things will ever replace what a true showman can do. Us dinosaurs will thrive, as we will not ever become in danger of being like the rats on Easter Island. Our customers will thrive, because we recognize them as humans, with human needs, not merely as a potential resource. Our shows will not cater to the high rollers or the big spenders, because there can only ever be a few of those, while 99% will be experiencing an economic revolution & rediscovering what fairness truly is. If as both a person & a KJ you're okay with the self entitled sorostitiutes, braternity & rich little divas, who over talk you with their song request while you are trying to call the next singer, or announce a birthday or anything else that doesn't deal with them, right now... If you're okay with sending the etiquette & common courtesy, that we like to think separates humans from other animals, spiraling into the depths of what can only be described as hell... More power to you. I prefer to stick with the integrity of a solid, true & not sold rotation. Another interesting twist on all of this: DMA '98 doesn't work for commercial use, unless it's coupled with fair use. Making money from the rotation & not from the venue, might be putting you on a commercial platter, separating you from qualifying for fair use & placing you in the ovens of the flames of legal shame... Don't be greedy... Just a friendly suggestion.
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Cueball
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:17 am |
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c. staley wrote: ...Might explain why your "avant garde company" doesn't give receipts... and YOU and DG and Micheal A. have ignored that subject every single time it is brought up and asked.... Chip, they just addressed that here (see below link) about 8 hours before you posted this statement. viewtopic.php?f=35&t=32044DigiTrax Karaoke wrote: ... We have implemented feedback learned here on this forum, the new site will offer: 1- EULA for Pro use 2- Receipt with detailed track information 3- Ability to go back and re-download (in-case of HD crash) ... ...
Musically Yours, Joseph Vangieri Edit: I just noticed that "Paradigm Karaoke" beat me to pointing this out.
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Sqwigee
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:27 am |
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The ability to re-download, vs. Permission to have a backup copy on hand for maintenance/emergency use, I find to be a paranoid distrust between customer & seller. My reasons for this are as follows: 1) in a situation where 1 rig is being used 7 nights a week, your only option for maintaining/cleaning your computer, is a rush job between shows, food, sleep & family. Rushing leaves more chances of crimping a wire/having a wire left to close to a fan, compromising the shielding, etc. 2) In that same event, it took me 4 days to completely download the entire download the offered library, which was very much inferior to my accrued original disc library, that would, in an emergency, mean roughly 4 days of no shows - which would constitute a financial emergency of it's own. 3) the library offered was encrypted and not allowed to be edited, in any way, which meant that I was a slave to a library with title/artist mistakes & so many graphics & ID3 tag mismatches, I started a spreadsheet devoted to reporting tracks reported & when/if they were ever fixed, so much so, that before I dropped the service to go back to my original library minus the 2 litigious ones, I was about to ask to be placed on payroll! I realize that there were plenty of dishonest folks out there, but there had to be a better way to approach new customers, with an attempt at mutual trust, that would be beneficial for both parties... Now this & apparently a 25% reduction in the offered Library (reportedly from other posts earlier in this thread). While I found that it was not for me, I have to say that "advances" like this proposed one, it is even more so. It seems as though you thought all us allegedly "greedy KJ's" would leap at the chance to be a part of this, there is a resounding disdain presented by KJ's who seem to have... Ethics... It seems we've spoken, to deaf ears... But happy to provide the feedback anyhow.
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Alan B
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:04 am |
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cueball wrote: Chip, they just addressed that here (see below link) about 8 hours before you posted this statement.
I'm trying to understand your above reply... First, you refer to Chip. But you don't state whether Chip is a person, place or thing. Could it be short for a potato chip? A chocolate chip? Or maybe a chip off the old block? Next you talk about an address. Are you referring to someones home address? I don't understand. Then you talk about a link. Which could be anything from a missing link to a broken link. Then you talk about 8 hours. There are 24 hours in a day and 8 of them are part of it. What is this specific reference to hours? And finally you talk about a post. Do you mean like something you would post on a tree when your cat is lost? Or maybe a post it note? Or could it be referring to driving a post into the ground? As you can see, your response is very confusing. Maybe in the future, you can clarify exactly what you're talking about. Thank you, my friend.
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JimHarrington
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:34 am |
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c. staley wrote: I'm not putting any claws away when I have to wade through the fudge-factory they're putting out: karaoQ wrote: The text testimonials will be on the site we launch during the Karaoke Summit. We also have interviews from people in the music industry (including a Living Legend award winner and former major label exec, and an EVP of Digital Marketing from another label) -- all working with us. As well, there will be 4-5 interviews done from VERIFIABLE KJs from different parts of the country with different karaoke show formats, business formats, and demographic make-ups that have already filmed their interviews.
You want verifiable proof? Tune in. Their names, the names of their companies and geographic location are all in the lower-third of the videos talking about how they are using the karaoQ platform. " TEXT testimonials?" That's bulls*** in a cup... I can write one myself. "have interviews?" So what? That's nothing.... means nothing... we're not that stupid. "award winner this and former major label exec and an EVP..." Bill Cosby was an award winner too.. and so was O.J. Simpson and Bernie Madoff... doesn't mean they know the north end of a moose from the south end. I live in Motown... have any idea how many "award winners" will jump at the chance to have an interview with anything and anyone that will talk to them and let them stick their face in a camera? All of them. And they'll say whatever you want..... as long as there is a camera in the equation. "Former" anything means "has been" and that's all. What the hell is a "EVP?" EX-Vice President? Probably an ex for a reason. I don't give a squat about your contrived "summit interviews" with anyone because that's just a set up sales pitch and you know it. karaoQ wrote: You want verifiable proof? Tune in. Their names, the names of their companies and geographic location are all in the lower-third of the videos talking about how they are using the karaoQ platform. You really do think we're as stupid as a brick don't you? Another shot for you to say "tune in?" I want verifiable proof from KJ's that are NOT part of your summit. According to you there are LOTS of them... Don't post their names on your website, do it here.. Don't spend anytime coaching them what to say either. I don't know about you folks, but these guys seem to me like the slimiest group of evasive snakes to ever slither out of Nashville and the Chartbuster Cesspool. Used car salesman... and not even good ones. Graduates of "SSB" and that might seem harsh to you but I take sidestepping and double-talk as they have done as a sign of insulting dishonesty. If I was going to go this "automated way," I'd buy Toqer's system..... out of spite. It's been around longer, has all the bugs worked out and he's not an <span style=font-size:10px><i>(@$%&#!)</i></span>... . You would not believe how hard I'm laughing right now. (Psst..."EVP" stands for "Executive Vice President.")
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Alan B
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:00 am |
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JimHarrington wrote: You would not believe how hard I'm laughing right now.
Laughing is good for the soul.
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Lone Wolf
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:02 am |
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Alan B wrote: cueball wrote: Chip, they just addressed that here (see below link) about 8 hours before you posted this statement.
I'm trying to understand your above reply... First, you refer to Chip. But you don't state whether Chip is a person, place or thing. Could it be short for a potato chip? A chocolate chip? Or maybe a chip off the old block? Next you talk about an address. Are you referring to someones home address? I don't understand. Then you talk about a link. Which could be anything from a missing link to a broken link. Then you talk about 8 hours. There are 24 hours in a day and 8 of them are part of it. What is this specific reference to hours? And finally you talk about a post. Do you mean like something you would post on a tree when your cat is lost? Or maybe a post it note? Or could it be referring to driving a post into the ground? As you can see, your response is very confusing. Maybe in the future, you can clarify exactly what you're talking about. Thank you, my friend. Why does he need to explain it. It was directed at Chip and I'm sure that Chip got the message and understood it, as did I. If anyone here doesn't know who Chip is by now they don't spend much time here.
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Cueball
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:04 am |
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Alan B wrote: cueball wrote: Chip, they just addressed that here (see below link) about 8 hours before you posted this statement.
I'm trying to understand your above reply... First, you refer to Chip. But you don't state whether Chip is a person, place or thing. Could it be short for a potato chip? A chocolate chip? Or maybe a chip off the old block? Next you talk about an address. Are you referring to someones home address? I don't understand. Then you talk about a link. Which could be anything from a missing link to a broken link. Then you talk about 8 hours. There are 24 hours in a day and 8 of them are part of it. What is this specific reference to hours? And finally you talk about a post. Do you mean like something you would post on a tree when your cat is lost? Or maybe a post it note? Or could it be referring to driving a post into the ground? As you can see, your response is very confusing. Maybe in the future, you can clarify exactly what you're talking about. Thank you, my friend. HUH?????????????????????? Where did this all come from? Did I recently offend you in some way? Lone Wolf wrote: Why does he need to explain it. It was directed at Chip and I'm sure that Chip got the message and understood it, as did I. If anyone here doesn't know who Chip is by now they don't spend much time here.
I think Alan was trying to be facetious... although why, I do not know.
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c. staley
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:07 am |
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JimHarrington wrote: You would not believe how hard I'm laughing right now.
Laugh it up funny boy, you're in the same class.
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Alan B
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:34 am |
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cueball wrote: Alan B wrote: cueball wrote: Chip, they just addressed that here (see below link) about 8 hours before you posted this statement.
I'm trying to understand your above reply... First, you refer to Chip. But you don't state whether Chip is a person, place or thing. Could it be short for a potato chip? A chocolate chip? Or maybe a chip off the old block? Next you talk about an address. Are you referring to someones home address? I don't understand. Then you talk about a link. Which could be anything from a missing link to a broken link. Then you talk about 8 hours. There are 24 hours in a day and 8 of them are part of it. What is this specific reference to hours? And finally you talk about a post. Do you mean like something you would post on a tree when your cat is lost? Or maybe a post it note? Or could it be referring to driving a post into the ground? As you can see, your response is very confusing. Maybe in the future, you can clarify exactly what you're talking about. Thank you, my friend. HUH?????????????????????? Where did this all come from? Did I recently offend you in some way? Lone Wolf wrote: Why does he need to explain it. It was directed at Chip and I'm sure that Chip got the message and understood it, as did I. If anyone here doesn't know who Chip is by now they don't spend much time here.
I think Alan was trying to be facetious... although why, I do not know. Man, you guys have no sense of humor!
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JimHarrington
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:36 am |
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c. staley wrote: JimHarrington wrote: You would not believe how hard I'm laughing right now.
Laugh it up funny boy, you're in the same class. I'm sure you think so.
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Cueball
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:56 am |
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Alan B wrote: Man, you guys have no sense of humor! I would have laughed if you had posted something funny. I did not find that last post of yours, ridiculing a post of mine, which addressed someone else's post in this forum (and really had nothing to do with you), the least bit funny or humorous.
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c. staley
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:33 am |
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JimHarrington wrote: c. staley wrote: JimHarrington wrote: You would not believe how hard I'm laughing right now.
Laugh it up funny boy, you're in the same class. I'm sure you think so. "SSB" = Slep School of Business
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DigiTrax Karaoke
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:20 pm |
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Dear KS Forum Elite, Thank you for the lively discourse and input. Many of your suggestions are in-play. Your desire to enhance and modernize the karaoke industry has been heartfelt and action is taking place. On October 22, our new download site http://www.KaraokeCloud.net will go live, as will the http://www.KaraoQ360.com Looking forward to the Q&A at the Summit. Musically Yours Joe Vangieri
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Alan B
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:29 pm |
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cueball wrote: I would have laughed if you had posted something funny. My dear little cueball... With all of the tension going on in this thread, I was trying to do something distracting and possibly off the wall. I am so sorry you didn't find it funny or amusing. You took it for face value instead of seeing the whimsical playfulness of my response. All I wanted to do was bring a smile, or maybe even a chuckle to your face. But apparently, I failed miserably. Please accept my humble apology for any harm I may have caused. Thank you. Yes, thank you!
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Alan B
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:51 pm |
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Dear Mr. Vangieri,
I must say, the new website is looking good. However, I have a question regarding KaraoQ. Your website states:
"Get started on the right foot with all the latest hits from Karaoke Cloud. You’ll need these songs in order to take advantage of all KaraoQ has to offer, including special promotions, artist shout-outs, and more. This package includes all the Hits of the Month bundles from the previous twelve releases. That’s a total of 252 smash hits! The cost is $479.88."
So basically, you have to buy a KaraoQ starter pack which is a $500 investment in order to be able to use all of the features. And then, they get 25% of whatever extra you make (bumps/bribes/tips) from using the program. Is that correct?
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