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 Post subject: Music And Freedoms
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:10 pm 
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This is a direct response to the David Alan Coe thread. It comes from an old cowboy in Colorado that his early philosophy was shaped by his grandfather for all the men in the family were in the Pacific,   France , Germany, and many places to fight the war that would end all wars..I knew at an early age one didnt break horses they trained them, never used a whip or used spurs, treated all women with an eternal respect, and never abused them in any way whether they were a lady or a hooker.A fight is one on one and never hit a man while he was down.  If a stranger showed up in town give him or his family a temp job and send them on their way with a full stomach and enuff money to get closer to the things they were looking for and not judge them... He said it took 6 generations to make a true breed of horse, dog or a gentleman. I think it was Zane Grey who said it took many generations to make a cowboy and it will take many more to lose them.That day is close at hand and alot of the old cowboys chasing the herd in the sky are laughing at whats going down now.. They can laugh because they are not regulated or have to put up with the crap in this country now. If somebody tried to tell them how to think what they could say or have to play a role that siuted the political correctness they would knock you on your (@$%&#!).

What does this have to do with music? And freedoms?  I have been involved in history changing events (military and civil) and watched the media report events according to their political views or controlled by a more and more corrupt government. I have watched groups and liberals try to and actually change history to suade public opinion and promote their perverted mores and pass laws to control the masses, I have witnessed social engineers turn a society into one that doesnt know the difference between a man or woman and have actually got them in a gender war.  Familys no longer pray, sing or eat together because the day is gone when a man or woman either one could work 40 hours a week and support a big family for they are too busy surviving.

The arts and music industry was one of the few left that practised the old freedoms. Now you liberal bastards want to tell them what they can write what they can write about and censor certain words. The chinese now have filters on the net where their citizens cant mention liberty freedom or human rights Article Is this what you want? If any of you come in our bars and try to tell us we cant sing certain songs or try to regulate the language or tell us we cant express ourselvs I will kick your f*** A** all the way back you came from...You can rear your children in a pickle jar but dont put a bubble around my kids or friends. And dont tell them what to sing or what drum to march to.... We got our own drums....If you want to come in our bars leave your drum at home....

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:50 am 
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karyoker, if  could give you a big old man hug now, I would! I'm in your camp here, even though some people think I am being disrespectful. Political correctness..............One of the very true points you brought up,
Familys no longer pray, sing or eat together because the day is gone when a man or woman either one could work 40 hours a week and support a big family for they are too busy surviving. is very close to my heart. I believe in having breakfast  and dinner together as family. In our family we don't have big fancy cars, or big expensive houses, what we do have is a 40hour work week and a lot of quality time together.

The boss wants me to work longer hours? Sorry, no can do. My family comes first, then my job. Of course, it does happen that you need to catch up now and then, but I do that because the job requires it, not because I have 10 rolling credit cards.

There's no need to buy all the fancy x-boxes to entertain our grandson when he visits. Chasing fire-fly's or blowing soap bubbles is much more fun. The grandbaby was with us last week, and of course, his first ? was, can I watch cartoons? Nope, sorry we don't have cartoons. Our TV has the very basic cable (21 channels only)

Call me old fashioned, but if you want to visit me, you will join us at the table and wait until every one else sits down before you start eating. You may leave when every one else is done.

Once again karyoker, I take my hat of to you for your bold statements. I'm on your side, and pity on those who don't agree.


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darn that mean I got to leave my bongo's at home too, haha


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:26 am 
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The original post was about not accepting the world as it is.  And being angry about it.  And I think I can understand why someone who lives relatively isolated from people feels that way.  Some people actually have to deal with hundreds of people around them constantly.  City people.  Inner city people.  We have come to understand that respect of people, regardless of who they are, is important for our survival.  I can no longer afford to look down on people because they aren't like me.

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dave-sinatra @ Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:26 pm wrote:
The original post was about not accepting the world as it is.  And being angry about it.  And I think I can understand why someone who lives relatively isolated from people feels that way.  Some people actually have to deal with hundreds of people around them constantly.  City people.  Inner city people.  We have come to understand that respect of people, regardless of who they are, is important for our survival.  I can no longer afford to look down on people because they aren't like me.

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I have being singin protest songs since the last election a way for me to give awarness to the people. I've seeing how this Nation has been changing and I know those in this Administration are corrupt their all fascist who want to control the world right wingers, the riligous right trying to end the world in the name of Christianity. their not Liberals I think you made a mistake on the name your calling them. I sub "Peace Train'' recently because that was our anthem when we went to Washington D.C. on the AMTRAK train to try to get more funds for the train. Well as you might know the Persident cut all AMTRAK funds after his inauguration. After what happen in London I remember that security was really poor on the AMTRAK stations no one was ckecking the bagage like they do in the airports. after knowing what Bush did to cut all fund it just goes to show what kind of brain he has or that he just don't care about the American peoples safety. I guess both are right. I just hope all American people wake up some day before we lose our freedom.  :(


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