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This is something we definitely agree on. However, some people are assuming that I am making my decision based on social media. That is farthest from the truth. I make my decision based on personal history of the lack of truths the government has incurred on me and my family. I see the information on several government agency (federal, state and local) websites that do not even come close to being accurate. Or that they even come close to agreeing with each other. How can a person take it seriously when one government entity tells you that there have been "x" number of cases on any given day, yet another government entity tells you a totally different number, and they aren't even close to each other. And to let you know, both of these websites are health departments, one state, one local. One is supposed to be giving facts, figures and updates to the other. But one of them tells us that they have tested 44 thousand more people in our district than we have a total population.... that's "people tested", not "tests given". Our state one shows that there have been over 300,000 more people tested than we have residents in this entire state. How can a person give these government agencies any credence or credibility when they are obviously stating inflated numbers. Add in that they have listed more deaths from Covid alone than we have had people die in our area in the last 6 months.

The federal government and ALL of it's agencies is full of misinformation and lies. I do not know how a person can trust a single word they say or print. No matter what media source you follow, it's all about politics and it's twisted both directions to make the other party look like liars. When we all know that both sides are just as guilty of spreading nothing but lies and propaganda.

I have no doubt the virus is real and that it is causing a huge number of deaths and illnesses. That much is certain. What I am trying to impart onto you all on here is that I cannot trust a government when they tell us this vaccine is "safe". I have to see it long term first to make a good judgement call. Yes, I have had vaccines before,,, all the normal ones, and I would get this one too if I believed that is is all it is cracked up to be. I have said it before, and will say it again: I cannot in good conscience even call it a "vaccine". To be a vaccine, it must be able to build up a persons IMMMUNITY to the virus it is meant to protect against. This current one does NOT do that, it is meant to be administered again, and again,,, and just how long before it kills you after getting your 3rd dose, or your 8th or 34th. You get the picture. I equate these shots to flu shots, meant to lessen the affects of certain illnesses...nothing more. And I have never gotten a flu shot either in my entire life....

Do I stay home when I am sick? ABSOLUTELY!!! Even when I did contract Covid, I stayed home longer than the prescribed time. We had just started back to hosting a couple of weeks before I got sick, but I didn't do any shows at that time. I am extremely confident that I did not spread any virus past my own doors at home. I know you will think this foolish Alan, but I even wiped down all my mics after every singer, and still do. I also wipe down my booth so as to lessen the chances of spread. It's not fool proof, but at least it's something.

All I am asking here is people to respect my personal "why" I don't want to get the shots at this time. At some point in time, it it still possible that I learn to trust the vaccine itself, just not yet. And in the meantime, I still social distance, I wash my hands almost too much, and I wear a mask in closed spaces (still need the correct masks for them to be effective) I really shouldn't have to justify anything to any of the people on here. But I would like you all to understand and accept my choices, even if you don't agree with them.

What and how I am living my daily life has little to no bearing on others around me, I make certain of that much. But what LR is doing is different in the fact that what he IS doing is taking potential future incomes away from other hosts. I can respect his choice for accepting no pay, but that still does not mean that the places he is hosting at should not be bearing the responsibility of the costs of doing business. Hence, they should be paying "someone", maybe not Lone Ranger, but they need to step up and do the right thing.

The bottom line is anyone working with the public aka coming into human contact with others should be vaccinated. If you don't want to get the vaccination get another line of work, where you don't have to deal with others, simple.

I agree with you on this 100%. An unvaccinated person can be in contact with someone who has Covid and never get it, BUT still become a carrier and pass it on to someone else who may end up dead from it.

If you don't want to get the shot, fine. But stay away from other people because you just never know. Your actions have consequences. In this case they can be deadly.

I agree with you on this 100%. An unvaccinated person can be in contact with someone who has Covid and never get it, BUT still become a carrier and pass it on to someone else who may end up dead from it.

If you don't want to get the shot, fine. But stay away from other people because you just never know. Your actions have consequences. In this case they can be deadly.

What you are also forgetting to add is that even vaccinated people can also contract the virus in the exact same manner. There is no difference that way. The reasoning behind the shots is they can lessen the severity of the illness. That part is a good thing. But looking at current numbers they are reporting, 37% of new cases are breakthrough. Which means they are letting their guards down by not wearing masks and not social distancing. Absolutely anyone can be a carrier, but the people who have already had it (like me) have a far less chance of being a carrier than even those who have been vaccinated.

How can you respect a host whose actions are only hurting the industry and fellow KJ's? Sorry, but is he showing any respect to the hard working KJ's/DJ's who rely on this income for the services they provide?

What he's doing is sending a message to these venues that Karaoke/DJ entertainment is worthless and has no value. A message that says; they shouldn't have to pay for these services.

What happens after LR decides to pack it in and another KJ/DJ tries to take over. Do you think they're going to pay him or her $150 a night? No, they're not. They're not going to want to pay anything at all because of the precedent that LR started. Because of this, they're going to have a much more difficult time finding a gig that will pay for their services.

So tell me... what is there to respect?

I agree with you on this 100%. An unvaccinated person can be in contact with someone who has Covid and never get it, BUT still become a carrier and pass it on to someone else who may end up dead from it.

If you don't want to get the shot, fine. But stay away from other people because you just never know. Your actions have consequences. In this case they can be deadly.