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Lonman
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:26 pm |
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Paradigm Karaoke wrote: after everyone sang the top and bottom score for each person was discarded (your best buggy cant pump up your score and that douche next to you can t tank it either) and the other 4 scores were tallied. I have done that as well before. Sometimes it is warranted if the scores on 1 singer looks unusually high or low. One contest - which I was trying something new, I actually had each contestant be the judge of the others. Obviously not for themselves. It worked out fine, and there was actually little complaints at the results.
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JoeChartreuse
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:00 pm |
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Lonman wrote: One contest - which I was trying something new, I actually had each contestant be the judge of the others. Obviously not for themselves. It worked out fine, and there was actually little complaints at the results.
While I won't do contests, if I did, Lon's method above is by far the best and most innovative that I've ever seen. Kind of like the kids dividing the cake formula. There would no cause for complaint ( which doesn't mean they wouldn't whine anyway, but...). Nice work, Lon!
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andrew3000
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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:29 am |
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There's another thread somewhere on these forums where I outlined a lot of my reasons for being hesitant to do contests; but this was based on my experience with long-term, multi-week contests.
I personally have never done a single-night contest. However, there's a bar around here that awards a small trophy and a discounted tab to the MVP of the night, so it's something of a single-night contest every week. They do very well, so it seems to me that a single-night contest brings out hopefuls without baiting and subsequently pissing off divas/regulars/diva regulars.
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TedJankowski
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:12 pm |
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Just thought I'd ad my 2 cents. I ran into an older Karaoke host who explained to me that the best way he found to run a contest was to allow the contestants to do the judging. Thus, All contestant have to be there at the beginning of the contest NO Late comers. Most Karaoke singers are relatively honest. Or at least consistent in their judging. How did it work. Only One complaint from a friend of mine who does a lot of Contests. He was made because they judged too heavily on Singing ability and not enough on dress up and putting on a show.
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Brian A
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:18 pm |
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TedJankowski wrote: Just thought I'd ad my 2 cents. I ran into an older Karaoke host who explained to me that the best way he found to run a contest was to allow the contestants to do the judging. Thus, All contestant have to be there at the beginning of the contest NO Late comers. Most Karaoke singers are relatively honest. Or at least consistent in their judging. How did it work. Only One complaint from a friend of mine who does a lot of Contests. He was made because they judged too heavily on Singing ability and not enough on dress up and putting on a show. Kinda like this idea. All contestants vote as long they’re not allowed to vote for themselves. If a tie should occur one unbiased judge will vote to break the tie. Not completely happy with the result? No one to blame but themselves.
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KarenB
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:34 pm |
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Problem with the contestants doing the judging is that it's still possible to stack the deck. I've seen cases where the Diva brings all their friends and they all enter the contest and then they all vote for the Diva. That alone cured me of entering contests and it wasn't even that big of a contest.
Best advice I could give is that if they insist on having a contest, hold it on a night that normally doesn't have karaoke. That way you don't P.O. your regular singers by cutting into their singing time and hopefully the bar make a couple of extra bucks on what would normally be a slower night. You could even have a little open karaoke before and/or after the contest for anyone who wants to sing.
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TedJankowski
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:32 pm |
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Brian A wrote: Kinda like this idea. All contestants vote as long they’re not allowed to vote for themselves. If a tie should occur one unbiased judge will vote to break the tie. Not completely happy with the result? No one to blame but themselves. Actually Brian. The way we do it is everyone gives themselves 100 points. I guess if they really want to they can score themselves. But that would definately hurt them more than help. We've never seen a tie. 100 point scale X amount for singing ability, x amount for appearance, X amount Stage presence etc. It'd be a fluke to have a tie. w0 singers with 20 different scores. I'm sure it could happen But I think it'd be rare.
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ripman8
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:55 pm |
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My first contest out of the way. I steered completely clear of the judging. First prize was a keg of beer, or should I say a free keg party for the winner only to be used on non karaoke nights.
There were 4 rounds. There were 6 singers. There was no entry fee. All I did was announce the singers, mix for the singers and announce the winner. It was a fun time, the crowd was pretty pumped and out of the 6, half were darn good, 2 were amazing and 1 who really had no chance at all from the get go.
I caught a lot of flack from one of the singers (I would have rated him 5th) because I didn't have two of the songs he wanted to sing. After about the 6th time he whined about it, I told him my name was KingBing not Long John.
I think the judges picked the wrong winner, but as I said, two were amazing. After the contest was over, I looked up each singer and congratulated them. The one I thought should have won was with a guy who was,,,, you guessed it, pissed off because the girl he was standing by didn't win. He wanted to know who the judges were, I told him I didn't know, the bar took care of all that.
That was the only negative of the night, overall it went over good and I think they could want to bump up the prize and actually charge an entry fee.
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Lonman
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:45 pm |
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I have judges sitting at their own table most times. Also judges sheets are always available for contestants to review their scores. No reason to keep them from them.
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ripman8
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:11 am |
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Lonman wrote: I have judges sitting at their own table most times. Also judges sheets are always available for contestants to review their scores. No reason to keep them from them. Good points.
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