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EElvis
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 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:19 am |
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icenine,
fi you have the foundations you have a good enough collection to start. You Dont have to start out on top, but you do have to start. Procrastination may cost you a chance at a gig you really want.
I started a Local club here that had never had Karaoke before. And their Saturday nights were dead. Heck Before us, they were closing at 9:00pm.
The first three weeks were almost dead, and the owner was about ready to pull the plug. BUt on the 4th week, a local Big Karaoke bar closed for the weekend. Big Mistake for him........ We had 35 to 40 of his patrons come in, and now we are hosting for about 150 . Needless the bar owner is thinking about trying it another night also. Even If you have to start small. Start!
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icenine
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:26 pm |
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I hear ya, Dr. I DO have to start!  I have set the date with the bar owner at March 13th. I am pretty excited (and more than a bit nervous  ).
I have around 4000 songs right now (Sound Choice, Chartbuster, Priddis, Supercore, Top Hits Monthly) and I plan on being around 5000 by my first gig. I am going to try and get the lastest stuff from THM or PHM and then make my first book.
One problem I have is that I haven't spoken $$ with the bar owner, yet. This guy has always been fair to me (my band has played there for 4 or 5 years), so I don't think it will be a problem. But a local host told me that the going rate is $150. I was hoping to make more (who isn't, right?! ) and I need to show the owner why I am worth it.
For one, I have many years experience as a singer/frontman/MC in a cover band. Most of the karaoke's around my neck of the woods are pretty much "Let's bring Bill up....How 'bout a hand for Bill." I plan on putting on more of a show (not to the extent that I will take the spotlight off of my singers, of course!).
I guess I am rambling  ...I'll let you know how I make out! Take care.
Patrick
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big jimmy c
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:45 pm |
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Patrick, 50.00 an hour is a pretty nice rate, Work from there.
I have had some success offering an introductory rate for 4 weeks to get a show rolling. a 25 percent discount is a nice number as long as you make it crystal clear to the owner that you will want your full price after 4 weeks.
Also, some venues might require newspaper advertising, Discuss this well in advance of your first show date with the owner.
Hey, Maybe you and the owner just might build a winning show, Good luck!! BJC
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outlaw
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:05 pm |
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KJ Pro is one of the easiest programs I have used. I like it because it allows me to export everything to Excell. MUCH better than Musicbook deluxe!!!
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icenine
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:44 pm |
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Thanks BJC,
I think you are right on the $50/hr. That seem like a reasonable starting point. I was planning on designing an ad and seeing if the owner and I could split the cost. I am really hoping that the we can build a nice Saturday night show! Thanks! 
I agree Outlaw. KJ Pro is easy to use and I LOVE that you can export it. That gives you a lot of flexibility beyond KJ Pro! Thanks for the input!
Patrick
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big jimmy c
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:29 am |
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Patrick, Thats a great idea. I started a new Saturday gig recently. Its in an offbeat area of the town. I made the same offer to the owner. A 1/4 page add in a local popular bar paper is 175.00 . I offered to go 50/50 on the add price with her.
Turns out she hooked up with Budweiser as a sponsor for their events at her bar. They paid for a full page add starting in march which will list the events including Karaoke.
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:56 am |
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Actually, Ron, you don't! It's like when Mel Tillis doesn't sturrer when he sings!
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:56 am |
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er, stutter... Now I'm stuttering!!
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