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ericlater
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:32 am |
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Well Phxkj
Welcome back; it's beem awhile. I still remember, somewhat, all of the mis-information you provided and the time we wasted following up on regarding the letter that was sent to "all" the karaoke venues in Phoenix.
So, once again, thanks to TTownTenor, you have an audience. So, I ask one more time --what is your agenda? And please don't tell us about all the shows you've run and the lawyer's opinions you have ascertained over the years. What, simply put, are you trying to accomplish with all of your legal "mumble jumble" postings?
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karyoker
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The word commercial is used here with abandon. Commercial enterprise is producing goods and selling which is subject to a federal tax. Certain services which do not require parts or sales such as taxi services are not considered as commercial enterprises but each state determines the taxes if any. Bands do not classify as commercial enterprises unless they are producing and selling cd's.. HUH If you are registered with the BBB and pay a local business tax then you would realize you are not a commerce but classify as entertainer. Let's talk legalities. Most here dont know what the hell they are talking about...
When you are completely legal, have a registered business license and pay local taxes as I do then you can start to advise me about legaliaties. In the mean time shut the hell up.
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jreynolds
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:08 pm |
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Phxkj @ Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:03 am wrote: Jreynolds, I believe that this thread is about just that and would assume that if the karaoke guy wanted a thread on equipment he should start one, Of coarse I also find it very amusing that with all the threads that have delt with this particular dead horse in the last 7 months that the karaoke guy has been on this site he would have learned what the disclaimer on SC discs, CB discs,Stellar discs and virtually any legitmate manufacturer ( and I use the term legitmate very loosely)means. It means unless the public performance rights are paid ASCAP,BMI,and Sesac you can't us the disc legally, commercially. This has been relayed in a dozen threads from lonman and several others. And this is why it gets beat to death. If you prefer to use a hard drive that's up to you. But it's also obvious by you statement that you know a whole lot less than you should
Hmm....i thought it was here somewhere. Now what was it you said? Perhaps it was rhetorical... 
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jreynolds
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:09 pm |
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Phxkj @ Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:36 am wrote: JR, My comment about knowing more was for "The Karaoke Guy" with regards to his comments about the disclaimers on SC disc's
Oh............i was replying to "not knowing enough". 
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THEKaraokeGuy
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:12 pm |
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The disclaimer on the disks is up to interpretation? Whose? I know what it says. It doesn't say "unless your bar pays ASCAP and BMI." By that you are admitting that all of these laws are being "interpreted" by people who are not qualified to do so.
PHXKJ, disagreeing with your OPINION doesn't mean that I don't know enough. It just means that I don't fall for all of the spin that certain companies put on things because they didn't lead or follow the advances in technology.
Where would we be without technology? Well I wouldn't be able to post on this forum.
Sidewinder, is there a law against cruelty to digitally rendered animals? If there is, I'll be willing to bet that would be subject to interpretation, too. 
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Lonman
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THEKaraokeGuy @ Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:12 pm wrote: The disclaimer on the disks is up to interpretation? Whose? I know what it says. It doesn't say "unless your bar pays ASCAP and BMI."
That is in fact what that disclaimer means. "Unauthorized" public performance or broadcast prohibited.
Once the publisher fees are paid either by the club the songs are being performed in or by whomever, it becomes authorized for public performance. _________________ LIKE Lonman on Facebook - Lonman Productions Karaoke & my main site via my profile!
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sidewinder
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only from an original disc.
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knightshow
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:48 am |
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not true.
Ascap or BMI didn't bust the clubs because they didn't have a karaoke license. THey bustd them because the venue didn't pay ANY Ascap license. They mention the jukeboxes, covers, AND karaoke.
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sidewinder
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:01 pm |
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Anything but the original dics is illegal. True
We are talking about the unathorized useage statement (Only Contained) on the Original disc. Pay attention.
Shhheeesssshhhh
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Murray C
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Lonman @ Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:12 am wrote: THEKaraokeGuy @ Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:46 pm wrote: Someone should create a dead horse Emoticon to beat. I didn't create, but i've had it for a while.  Jeeeeez Lonnie, I sure hope you got the copyright holder's authorisation to use this artistic material! LMAO Quote: Once the publisher fees are paid either by the club the songs are being performed in or by whomever, it becomes authorized for public performance.
Kinda makes The Karaoke Guy's head v. brick wall icon a little ironic don'tcha think?
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