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Ok..  I'm going to start off saying that I am a total newbie... here goes

I got a pair of JBL EON 15 G2 speakers, Mackie 1202-vlz3 Mixer, Shure Wireless Mic (not sure which model), and BMB Dx-3000.

So my old way I setup my system prior to getting the Mackie Mixer, was to have my dvd player and shure mic go to the BMB mixer and have it go to a pre-amp receiver, and finally out to the JBL eon speakers.

The sound of that setup was really week and seem really empty.  A friend of mine told me to get the Mackie 1202-vlz3 mixer to increase the gain and fully utilize my speakers.  

So here I am, I got the Mackie Mixer and the setup is as follows:
dvd + shure mic to mackie mixer, makie mixer to speakers.

gosh darn, this thing is sooo loud it scares the crap out of me.... heheheh which is good..

But, I don't get the effects that the BMB DX-3000 gives me, meaning that I can't adjust the echo... where do I adjust the echo on the Mackie Mixer???

Do I still need to use my BMB DX 3000 ?

Please tell me how to fix my echo issue and any advice on making my system better, thanks in advance!!!

Sorry for the double post, hope this section of the forum is correct

Unfortunately the Mackie 1202 - while is a great little board, doesn't have any built in effects.  You may have wanted to consider getting the DFX12.  With the 1202 you'd need to get a separate effects unit - which is much better than anything built in.  If you tried to use the BMB for your effect, you'd lose any benefit that the Mackie will give.

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I can highly recommend the Lexicon MX200, which I have. The effects are stunning compared to the internal mixer effects I have seen (Alesis and Behringer).

I'd second this recommend!

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I use a Digitech Voca300 vocal effects processsor connected to a Behringer mixer.  the Behringer has builtin FX but I find the Voca300 is much more flexible and has the added advantage that the settings can be saved and are therefore instantly retrievable when setting up.  

Not sure how the Voca300 stacks up against the Lexicon!

The Lexicon has presets as well -- I have 5 settings I use.

 -- Big Pop Vocal, most singers, most songs
 -- Plate for good country and oldie singers
 -- "Easy", for ethereal vocals
 -- Retroverb, for oldies
 -- Big Boomer, for really quiet voices

I really only use 1,2,3 normally and I can switch them easily based on the song and singer.

With regard to reverb quality, Lexicon has about the best reputation. And it is the best effects I have heard, to be sure. The MX200 is $200.00 brand new.

So... I notice that my BMB DX3000 had XLR output in the back, I plug the mic and dvd into that mixer and had the xlr output out to the speakers...

Wow, its just as loud as the Mackie route...

Say I don't get the Lexicon MX200 and return my Mackie Mixer.

How does my system perform vs the Lexicon MX200+Mackie?

I got another questions thats been bothering me...
How high do I turn the EON15's 25%, 50%, 75% vs how high I turn the mic/music volume on the BMB Mixer...  When I turn the speakers on 50% and the mic on 18, its too damn loud for the mic, so i set the mic setting down to 1 and it's still to dang loud..

I found a sweet spot at 25% and mic vol at 3-4 and it worked out, but am I limiting my speakers by keeping it only powered at 25%????

Any help is appreciated..   so many dang volumne knobs..

Chances are it won't compare as far as sound quality goes.  THe built in effects on the BMB are very limited as to what they can do - most are not even adjustable, just set settings from the factory - which may be good enough for your needs, on something like the Lexicon or other external processors like it, you can tailor adjust certain effects & even run multiple effects at a time.  You'll have more overall control of volume, eq & effects on the fly through the Mackie board without having to go into programming mode.  The BMB only offers a 2 band (high/low) eq for the music as the Mackie offers a 3 band (high/mid/low).  Now again, all of these may not be an importance for an occasional home use system.  If it was going to be for a regular working system, i'd take all these into consideration.



Another plus for the Mackie as there is a main volume fader that will control the overall volume, I did not notice one on the BMB unless the big 'music' volume knob is the main volume - I did not go into the manual to research.  Generally on powered speakers you will turn them up wide open & control the main volume from your mixer as it is acting as a pre-amp of sorts.
Although it's still all matter of mixing between you mic level & you music level.  I'd turn the mics & music volume down on the BMB, open the speakers wide open.  Then turn the music up to a comfortable listening level, then get your mics to where they are just above the music level - & your volume level should now be fine.

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So I tried this, opening up the speakers at 50% and increasing the mic/music vol up and it seems that the mic at 1 out of 30 powers is still to dang loud and the only unit below 1 is 0, which is mute really....

any suggestions?  

Say I get the Lexicon MX200, how does that hook up with the mackie mixer?  is it a pass through between the mic and mackie mixer??

Then there is a main output control that is turned up somewhere on the mixer.  You shouldn't be getting that kind of volume from a tap on the volume control.  You should be able to have the speakers wide open for most of todays systems & control from the mixer.  Look in the manual to see if there is a master volume that controls everything & turn it down!  OR you ARE using the master volume control & everything else is turned up which would give the same effect.  Make sure all volume levels are turned down - mics, music, & master.  When you are sure of this, then turn the master volume up say 1/2 way - if all else is turned down, you shouldn't be hearing anything while turning your master volume up, then your music, then your mics.  



No it would go in the Efx send/return loop of the mixer - in the case of the 1202 it is Aux 2 send & stereo returns left & right.  Sounds more complicated than it actually is.

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Can I use my DX 3000 as the EFX to Aux 2?  If so, how?

And yes that stereo return sounds complicated, how does that work?

 Not the case anymore. I will put the effects on my Peavey FX 16 against any rack processor and come out just as good, or better. I did a side by side test with my Lexicon MPX1, and my new Peavey FX16. I think i did as good in verbs section, and better in the guitar effect section.  :worship:

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