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A- would be my choice. Make money on karaoke? most host don't. Lucky if i break even. But i do enjoy it. It's a past time, and i can handle the drunks. And i try not to get "Overly Serious" about it.
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I agree that good manners dictate you spend some money when go out to karaoke. Since I don't drink, my wife and I only go to venues where we can order a meal. Sometimes my wife has a drink or two but we always go to have a big meal with deserts a bit later. Then I leave a good tip and no one has ever complained that we don't drink.

Before we go to a new place I go in and check it out to see the menu and seating. (Some places don't have chairs big enough for people that eat big meals and desert.)  If the place is too much about the bar and not much about the food we don't go. A lot of places fall under the we don't go catagory.


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I don't drink most of the time. I order Coke but it cost just as much as the beer. The bar earn more from me per order 'cos of the higher marked up.

And to answer the OP question> I go for... A

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Jian, you make a very good point,i think most here have over looked including myself. I use to sell both pre, and post mix to bars and resturants. And there is mucho profits in fountain pop, just ask any of the major hamburger joints. When i was selling tanks. It would cost about 3 cents for the club to serve a coke. Then they would charge you a couple bucks at your table...Great point thanks Jian

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Sweet Little Me In Karaokeland........

C - great sound system, all my favorite songs and i get to sing 4 or 5 songs....or 6...or 7...no 6, you can sing one...

and i want all my drinks on the house  

soooooo milo, that means you have to go to karaoke with me in order to get C.....

ON THE HOUSE THE FLOOR WHO CARES AS LONG AS I HEAR THAT BEAUTIFUL VOICE.....

I spend money and tip well because I want karaoke to stick around. Every venue owner I know welcomes me with open arms, as do every wait staff that deals with me. I tip well and order off the top of the menu.


I spend a lot more than $5 on most nights. Again, it is in my self interest. I know that karaoke won't remain if no one spends money, so I spend it to do my part. I want the show to do well.

Tonight we went to a show starting at 8pm and stayed till 10:15, and we got to sing twice. We spent about $30, only because my wife didn't eat as she had already at a faculty function. Normally we spend a bit more, and normally I get to sing four times or so in that time. It was busy tonight, and I didn't get there early enough to get in the first rotation. The show does very well for a Tuesday, and it is in it's fourth year with no sign of quitting. It is my favorite show right now. It fits what I like.

Normally you don't have to deal with me at your average late show. I am an early bird, and it is rare to see me after 11pm. But every time I go out of town like I just did, for about three weeks, when I come back the hosts and the owners or managers come to my table and say how much they have missed me. So I have a fair amount of confidence that I am the kind of customer that they are looking for...

That doesn't change the fact that I am there to sing. I am not there to make owners or hosts happy, other than that is the way they keep karaoke around. I am not there for the bar scene -- I was done with that a couple of decades ago. My friends mostly don't drink or sing, so I am not there to see them. I am there to sing.

mckyj? do u record and sub on SS? if not why not?  i would love to hear you sing...

just me personally but i really don't care to hear myself sing that much,  2 songs and i'm done most nights....

I am an entertainer I am very good at it. I do not charge for it  If a bar expects me to spend money when they should be paying me then I will not go back. When you put restrictions on the people that are making the show then you are nuts.

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Nuts?  You open a business and give your services away?  What country is this again?  Most people go into business to make money.  I don't see Bill Gates handing out Karaoke Systems so people can do it for free.  No he gives his millions/billions to true charitible causes.  Karaoke is not a charitible cause.  It's a hobby and there are associated costs for everyone.

I do my shows for extra pocket money.  My girlfriend appreciates that about me.  She'd definitely think I was nuts if I hosted twice a week for free.  What's the point of having the entertainment option if it was free.  The popcorn is free; eat some of that.  Free pool night?  Free pool?  No, it's so you'll spend your cash on food and booze.  

I do friends' birthdays for free.  Bar makes out, friends make out and I don't have to buy a present.  I'm doing a friend's wedding reception this Sunday ... you guessed it, without cost to my friends or the bar.

I'd do more free shows, but I have to make something to buy the current music people keep asking for, compensate for the replacement microphones and service of my speakers because drunk or not, people tend to not be as respectful of the equipment as they ought to be.  Some take it all for granted.  Books don't make themselves, pencils disappear like socks in the laundry, slips, blah, blah, blah ... It's not free.

Pretty ladies can come and sing all they want.  They bring in the boys.  Double standard?  Yep, that's another part of this business model us Americans are so proud of.

If you don't spend money on something when you come in/out to sing, you're taking advantage.  Not your fault, it's set up for you to do so.  Just know, we know who you are.  

Nuts?        Yeah, I'm nuts.  Come check out my show.    Bring money, buy something or put it in my tip jar.  

I have, but not for about a year. I am a new singer, singing just a bit more than two years. I never sang before I was 51, other than Happy Birthday and around the piano once a year. I am starting to get quite a bit better now. I am not the worst singer you have ever heard, of that I am sure. How good am I? Don't know, but people are starting to ask me if I am a professional. I am sure these are the clueless ones, but I never turned my nose up at flattery.

I haven't recently taken the time to record myself. I am probably going to have that done for me in Nashville next month, though, by a friend of mine who is a pro.


Not me, I am a major ham. The "Mickey Show" would be just fine with me, and the rare nights I get to do that I have plenty of material, with chutzpah enough to do it.

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Is there really a market for this ?  If-so where do I apply ?    I have no doubts that I'd knock'm dead with my meticulous ability to perform in this area !   Not to brag, but there are very few in this area with my ability !

Oh yeah, regarding the A, or B choice.  Makes no difference,  I can get the job done with even the best sound system, Even with A,  it'd pose no liability given my knack !

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I already stated that that didn't really apply to you as you do spend money at least on dinner so you supported the club you are singing in.  It's the ones that don't spend anything but maybe a pitcher of soda or water or coffee that don't bring anything to the table.



There are many MANY that won't spend more than a couple bucks to sing all night long.  You do not apply here.

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Folks liked me where I hung (I suppose the fact that the owner was a buddy and fellow guitarist gave me sort've a carte blanche ticket to do as I wished.. Including work there which I turned down, since I've done my bar time in terms of the baby sitting aspects), BUT, I felt weird not drinking (even though I always spent at least 10-30 BUYING rounds for those that drank and supporting my own DC (with a twist) and stale coffee habit (although they didn't like charging me).. Whenever ANY couple approached the bar I gave up my seat.. I guy and a date will spend more money in a shorter time than I can spend in most cases.. Plus if they want snacks, or she wants a sandwich I'm not going to take a seat as a sober person at a bar even if I spend money, fact is a couple getting a couple mixed drinks might spend 12 in one shot and more assuming they get food, I can't match that in a short time so common sense says right of way to the bigger spenders if there's a shortage of bar seats (which was more than not the case)..  I hate to say this, but I found myself in a delemma,  they treated me fabulously charged me usually for one drink of soda, perhaps two..  but they didn't feel right taking money because I was a friend of the establishment (being a sober old fart they considered me more of an employee considering a few of my current neighbors were bar tenders and doormen.. I was also a local shuttle service so employees could get shnockered after last call, but still... when you DON'T drink, and spend hours at a bar there's a certain amount of etiquette that I think is crucial in order to compensate for what you often DO NOT spend because in good faith, the employees often don't feel right charging you as a reg, along the lines of a designated driver, and personally many of these older folks realize we alcoholics exist and commend us, BUT..that doesn't pay THEIR tips and salaries...  I tipped VERY well, and bought shots and rounds instead... Let them know that I can party and spend even sober, I never shared I was anti-alcohol that's just stupid if you hang at a bar but instead, I Tried to make my presence a positive one.. Bars are money making establishments,  just because they feel wrong charging folks at times for soft-stuff, still means it's imperative to give the right of way to paying drinkers who are prospective bigger spenders, still leave tips you'd leave on a HIGHER tab, and compensate for what they might give you with gratuitous leaving of money..  It's all about respect.. It's a business..

Nobody will care if you don't drink a think assuming you go in and spend a considerable amount a night buying rounds for the bar..  While I did that, I didn't  like having to do it to feel welcome though.  Problem is, bars ARE where people drink... a sober person is often a fish out've water.. Just feels that way to me.. I feel like a doorman standing there sober when I go out.. It's weird.. but I don't feel I belong anymore EVEN when I spend.. In part because of my age, in part because I've outgrown the environment, and in part because I do think alcohol is a dangerous substance, but I just don't share it.. I don't like hanging around slovenly behaviour

Strange thing I found however.  If there's one place an older person at a bar need to feel embarassed about (assuming the bar is just an active atmosphere with loads going on) is telling others 'It's not that I don't want to drink, It's that I practically died several times because I drank",  That and buying soft drinks tend to get you more understanding than having the establishment think you are just not spending money on alcohol because you are cheap. I CAN'T drink..but I have to pay the parking fee still.. If they charged me nothing, I dropped at least 20 for the tip at the end of the night..  There're ways to make friends in bars.

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I pick A, but with a fair rotation.  :D I don't mind singing only a few times as long as the KJs best friend isn't singing 5 in a row.

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Some nights I do qualify a bit more. But I always order multiple soft drinks -- if they let me, a fair number of places give them away for free or have free refills -- and usually tip more than 100%. When the waitress refills my water, I tip her right then and there. But some nights there is nothing to buy.

when I first glanced at this, I thought you stated...."you pick a butt with a fair rotation"....... .....woo hoo.....baby got back......

It depends on my mood, but there are definitely times when I'd prefer to sing more often, even if the sound system isn't as good.  Song selection can be an issue but I've never had a problem getting a KJ to play my own discs.

I also don't spend as much as I'm sure the bar would prefer.  Usually one soda, which sometimes I don't get charged for (which is their mistake if you ask me).  I usually tip.  I also usually leave by 11:00 and often earlier as two hours or so is usually about as much as I want to hang out in a bar whether I'm singing a lot or not.

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I'm with Milo..... throw in free drinks, and I'll be happy with whatever.  :D

Nah, I prefer to sing more.... BUT... if it's a crappy sound system, I'll go to the A place instead. Nothing irks me more than crappy equipment. (other than.. dance music between songs)  LOL


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I simply won't go to a place that has crappy sound -- bad microphones especially. For deep baritones like mine, cheap mics are a real turnoff.

I saw one host who had $5,000 of great sound equipment -- top-of-the-line Mackie mixer, Helicon unit, multiple JVC CDG players, laptop with Compuhost, Bose L2 system (well maybe not great, but expensive at least). He topped it off with the cheapest sort of $10.00 Nady mic, with handling noise that was unbelievable! I asked him why he did that, and he said that drunks were too much risk to the mic. That didn't make sense to me at all -- you can get a decent microphone for $100 and it will last forever. In any case, I didn't go back.

Mics are the easiest place to improve your sound, in my opinion.  Speakers, EQ, and effects make a big difference as well. Paying attention to that makes my home system sound better than 90% of the karaoke setups I have seen.