KARAOKE SCENE MAGAZINE ONLINE! - Feeling RIPPED off by MTU! Public Forums Karaoke Discussions Karaoke Scene's Karaoke Forums Home | Contact Us | Site Map  

Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene Karaoke Forums

Karaoke Scene

   
  * Login
  * Register

  * FAQ
  * Search

Custom Search

Social Networks


premium-member

Offsite Links


It is currently Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:48 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 46 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:13 pm 
Offline
Extreme Plus Poster
Extreme Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:31 am
Posts: 5408
Location: Watebrury, CT
Been Liked: 409 times
mckyj57 @ Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:32 am wrote:
TopherM @ Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:13 am wrote:
They have two products for sale, you decided to be an uninformed consumer and purchase the older model instead of waiting for the newer model. Had you done just the slightest bit of research, I'm sure you would have found that MTU had announced the release of 4.0 about 5 months PRIOR to releasing it, so you could have saved this whole situation by just paying attention and researching the product you intended to buy.

Maybe you spend lots of time researching a $40 purchase -- I don't. I noted that I had purchased 2.xx in Nov 2005, noted 3.xx on sale in Feb 2007, and purchased the updated version since it was about a year since my last purchase of a previous version. If they had mentioned the 4.xx release on the product page I purchased from  at MTU, I probably would have waited.

Your analogy breaks down, too -- because cars have minor changes (updates) on an annual basis, and major model changes only every several years. Software programs move faster, but it is very unusual to have a major version last less than three years. In fact, it is indicative of either 1) poor design, since it wasn't a framework that lasted very long or 2) intentional manipulation of the customer base to extract money. MTU promises a free upgrade to the next version with every purchase, and it is highly unusual to receive none when the product has only been out a year.

And if you think all software companies operate this way, you are simply wrong. Some do, but usually they don't last for long.

To force the customer to do extensive caveat emptor to is a poor way to do business, because it leaves the customer unhappy. MTU can choose to do business this way, but it doesn't make me want to continue to do business with them.

Does $40 break me? Not in the slightest. But I feel poorly served because they orphaned 3.xx after a very short time. It is NOT normal in the business, and when it is done free upgrades are usually freely handed out because of that.

So I will continue to use 3.xx, and when I am next in the market, I will look elsewhere besides MTU. If they had kept me happy, I probably would have bought some future upgrade.

So in your way ofthinking then Microsoft should give you a free upgrade to vista if you bought Xp home or Pro a month before Vista came out. Sorry but the world does not work that way.  Most businesses are in it for the money and in an oversaturated market such as Karaoke software you have to expect that companies that use to give free upgrades might change their policy due to already having all the customers they can get as we karaoke consumers that purchase software for the purposes that MTU sells for is a small market.

_________________
The Line Array Experiment is over. Nothing to see here. Move along.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:36 pm 
Offline
Extreme Plus Poster
Extreme Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:24 pm
Posts: 5576
Location: Cocoa Beach
Been Liked: 122 times
DannyG2006 @ Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:13 pm wrote:
mckyj57 @ Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:32 am wrote:
Does $40 break me? Not in the slightest. But I feel poorly served because they orphaned 3.xx after a very short time. It is NOT normal in the business, and when it is done free upgrades are usually freely handed out because of that.

So I will continue to use 3.xx, and when I am next in the market, I will look elsewhere besides MTU. If they had kept me happy, I probably would have bought some future upgrade.

So in your way ofthinking then Microsoft should give you a free upgrade to vista if you bought Xp home or Pro a month before Vista came out. Sorry but the world does not work that way.

I give up -- no one is actually reading what I wrote. (I thought I had already given up, but you revived this thread from the dead. 8-) )

In my way of thinking, if Microsoft had come out with XP and then a year later end-of-lifed it and changed over  to Vista, darn well right I would be ticked off and want a free upgrade. But XP was out for 6 years before Vista replaced it.

My problem with MTU is that 3.x had a life of months.  I bought an Edsel. Caveat emptor and all that, but it still doesn't make me happy that I bought an Edsel. And considering the cost is near zero for them change my Edsel to a Fairlane, I personally think it is dumb of them not to do it.  But they chose not to do it, and it alienated a customer who had bought hundreds of dollars of stuff from them. Their choice.

Now it is my choice as to whether I want to do business with them in the future. Will I buy something from them, knowing that they might orphan it quickly with little apparent regard for what that means? We will see.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:37 am 
Offline
Super Poster
Super Poster
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:01 am
Posts: 841
Location: New Orleans
Been Liked: 0 time
Quote:
My problem with MTU is that 3.x had a life of months


Funny, Microstudio 3.0 still functions the way it did when I bought it. 10 years from now, it will still function the same way.

4.0 has a bunch of features that 3.0 didnt have, I guess by your reasoning, they should give me a new copy with all of the new advancements they paid to have a programmer make????

mckyj57..... If you ever start a software company let me know, I would love to pay $40.00 for a program, with free feature additions forever. You may go Broke, and have to close your doors, But your empty promise will always be there.



Sorry, I have been a customer of MTU's for 5 years now, The little they ask for the Major updates are worth it.........

_________________
______________________________________
I'm Not Dead yet...... But every day Im getting Closer !


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:58 am 
Offline
Major Poster
Major Poster

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:32 am
Posts: 79
Been Liked: 0 time
I thought microsoft did give upgrades to people who purchased computers with XP though like months before vista came out.  But I mean you'd have to be deaf and blind to not know vista was coming out the 1st qtr of 2007 if you were in a store buying just the standalone XP OS for some reason.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:31 pm 
Offline
Extreme Plus Poster
Extreme Plus Poster
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:24 pm
Posts: 5576
Location: Cocoa Beach
Been Liked: 122 times
EElvis @ Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:37 am wrote:
the way it did when I bought it. 10 years from now, it will still function the same way.

I know of no other company who has had a major version last months. I remember a couple of instances from a long time  I am both a software developer and a major purchaser of software for my business, and really no one operates like that.

But I had better now shut up. I wish the thread would get locked, as obviously people will come in without having read the previous posts and raise the same old questions and objections.


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:00 pm 
Offline
Super Poster
Super Poster

Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:46 pm
Posts: 1264
Been Liked: 0 time
I have to agree with Eelvis

I have 2 systems with Hoster Loaded one system has a 2 year old version loaded....why because that system does not need all the new features that have been added over that period of time. My other system has the latest version as I use it as my main system for edits and imports and I require the new search and edit features available.

The old version works great and will continue to for years to come. It has no bugs as they have all been eliminated.

When I decide to upgrade this to the latest version available I have no problem paying for the upgrade.

I have been dealing with MTU since late 2002 and have been very happy with their service and upgrade policies.

_________________
FlipSide Karaoke
Scott


Top
 Profile Singer's Showcase Profile 
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 46 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 442 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Privacy Policy | Anti-Spam Policy | Acceptable Use Policy Copyright © Karaoke Scene Magazine
design & hosting by Cross Web Tech