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a couple of my backstage discs have vocals that can only be removed with the balence function.  what does the following blurb mean?  what the hell is a "one touch k button"?  multiplex?     duh!  hep me

If you check the auction listing, some of the discs are clearly labeled as being multiplex.  This means they have a lead vocal track that can be removed using a "one Touch Karaoke Button" or the balance control on you player.

There appear 2 types of multiplex disc.
The most common has two music tracks of each song.
One with vocals and one without.

There is a second multiplex type where the vocals are removed.
Dont know if this is a seperate vocal track playing in sync
with the backing track or what.
Havnt seen one of those discs.

I've got two types.

One where you go left channel or right...

the other where you use the MPX part of the karaoke player, and it truly takes out ONLY the lead singer.

I've only got two of that latter type. And don't have the player to take advantage of it. Sucks, because one of the songs has backing singers AND the lead singer. If you use the MPX, only the lead singer is cancelled out. If you go LEFT channel, it cuts out the backing singers as well as the lead singer, and the song suffers from  it!

Karaoke tracks are recorded in stereo; L/R. In multiplex, one of the tracks have vocal recorded in it. Some player will have the function to kill the track that have the vocal. One can also kill the vocal by hard panning the backing track channel either to the L or R depending on where the vocal is. This is assuming that the backing track is played on the stereo channel of the mixer. If you use 2 mono channels to run the backing music then you can just mute the one with the vocal.

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ok, I was just turning the balance to one side, because like you said, I don't have the kill function.  is this the best I can do?  I'm 1/2 of my sound system by turning that balence to one side.  I'm not understanding all the terminology here "hard panning" is throwing my off.  can you guys bring it down to my level a bit?

without the true vocal kill swith, all i can do is turn the balance to one side, yes?  I guess I could run mono into both speakers if I could figureout how to do that, but that seems like alot of effort for a few songs.  thanks for the info though.

You might want to try either swift ultralite or MTU's Video Hoster.
Those are the only software programs right now with a way to kill lead vocals.

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Turn it all the way to either left or right, if you are using the stereo channel. If you are using 2 mono channels and your mixer have a mute button then use the mute button to kill the vocal, if you don't have the mute button then zero the gain and pull the feder right down.

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Jim,

I am not the xpert in this forum, but one of my karaoke machines has the multiplex function.  Also, I have purchased discs which are seconds in that they have lead vocals on every track that I need to be eliminate when playing!

Questions for you:
Are the tracks you're concerned with the only version of that particular song that exists on that disc?  Play the entire disc and see if a karaoke version exists somewhere.

If there is no karaoke version, then try turning the balance all of the way to the left, cutting out the right channel.  Typically, since the discs are recorded in stereo, the "demonstration" vocal appears (by itself) on the right channel.  If that doesn't work, try turning the balance all of the way to the right.

It is unlikely that this approach will not work.  It can only fail you in two circumstance that I can think of off of the top of my head.

    -  The disc wasn't recorded in stereo
    -  The lead vocals do not stand alone and/or are not isolated to one track

I also have multiplex discs that had an underlying track that you needed to switch the players audio option from digital to analog - never understood that as it's all digital, but that's what the display said.  Digital was the karaoke version while when switched to analog, the vocals would appear - no I am not confusing the one touch/vocal eliminator button either.

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yes, the balance thing works, as I stated in an earlier post.  I just don't like turning one half of my system off effectively by removing my left speaker.  is there any way around this?????


no, there are no other versions of the songs on the disc.  what sucks is the discs that do this have some cool songs on them!  darn it.

thanks!  ya'll are very helpful.  sometimes I take this site for granted, it is nice to have it.

There may be something in your players audio controls where you can set both outputs to either left, right or both.  THis is usually found only by using a remote & somewhere buried in the menu - sometimes viewable on the tv screen.

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In that case you may want to route your music input into two mono channels. Mute the channel with the vocal. The muscic will come out from both speakers.

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that's a good idea.  duh, I should have thought of that.  thanks.

hey you two, since yall are so heavy (knowledgable), what is the best thread to research getting a monitor for singer feedback?  I'm wondering, once again, what is the cheapest yet best one to get.  if you don't know of a good thread off-hand, I'll just search for it.

But then ALL my discs are multiplex.

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I would just get a small powered speaker.  Run it from the Aux send of the mixer - forgot which board you ended up with.

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I use a small powered RCF speaker. I bought it 2nd hand and used for 5 years before it got a bit muddy and started making horrible noises when turned on. Just had it repaired and I am thrilled to bits its back again, I had bought a small Crate system to replace it and was never happy with the sound. According to the rock shop RCF is one of the best brands you can buy (didnt get it from them ) and even though its tiny it is very loud

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Yes girl.
RCF,  GAUSS...
They cant be beeten. Not in a long while.
Very impressed with Mackie though.
Corse it also deprends what you drive them with.

Crate RIP
Only ever heard Crate as a guitar amp. Many years ago.
It was so so.